On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 03:52:25PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 12:34 PM, Hans de Goede hdegoede@redhat.com wrote:
Hi,
On 28-04-18 00:45, Chris Murphy wrote:
Yeah I'm totally lost on this, not least of which is I'm not experiencing the behavior reported in the bug or the release notes. The application referenced in the release notes is not installed by default. And the application once installed doesn't have the options in it that the release notes says it should have.
So there are 2 possible explanations for why you are / your laptop is not affected by this:
- You've once upon a time changed the setting in gnome-tweak-tool,
so it is no longer at its "default" value (which now changed) but pinned to the value you've chosen
I had to install Tweaks so since the last clean install, the default was not changed by me.
you may have changed it via gsettings directly (see my other email)
- Linux does not properly recognize your touchpad as a touchpad
so it is running in mouse emulation, since you also wrote:
No idea whether it's in mouse emulation or how to determine if it is.
$ dmesg | grep -i synap [ 1.527140] psmouse serio1: synaptics: queried max coordinates: x [..5690], y [..4772] [ 1.556655] psmouse serio1: synaptics: queried min coordinates: x [1250..], y [1084..] [ 1.556660] psmouse serio1: synaptics: Your touchpad (PNP: SYN3217 SYN1e00 SYN0002 PNP0f13) says it can support a different bus. If i2c-hid and hid-rmi are not used, you might want to try setting psmouse.synaptics_intertouch to 1 and report this to linux-input@vger.kernel.org. [ 1.614463] psmouse serio1: synaptics: Touchpad model: 1, fw: 8.2, id: 0x1e2b1, caps: 0xf00123/0x840300/0x12e800/0x400000, board id: 3214, fw id: 2407757 [ 1.651393] input: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input5 [chris@f28h ~]$
it's not in mouse emulation, otherwise you'd see a PS/2 Wheel Mouse device. fwiw, googling for the PNP ids suggests you have HP Spectre, and looking at the pictures of the current model indicates you have a clickpad.
(And off topic but I do *not* like that very prominent HURT ME BUTTON, labeled "Touchpad" with an on/off slider. Turning it off is for real and easy. Turning it back on again? Hahaha, figure it out yourself!)
- seems unlikely, because in mouse-emulation mode that button
would not hurt you. Note there is a good rationale for having that button, some people seriously like touchpads only use the trackstick or always carry an actual mouse with them.
Tried it, it does in fact turn off the touchpad entirely, and it took me a while to figure out how to turn it back on.
We have an auto-revert timeout when making certain video changes that might result in the computer becoming unusable.
There's a similar-ish bug for a touch input toggle open here: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-settings-daemon/issues/29
IMO the most appropriate course would be for GNOME to be aware of available pointer devices and re-enable the touchpad automatically when all other pointer devices disappear. Doable but there are a few tricky details, in addition to the whole issue of "someone needs to actually write that code".
Cheers, Peter
FWIW I personally I'm not in favor of the change of the default from the tried and trusted PC / windows standard button-areas behavior to the mac click-finger behavior. I've stated as much in the GNOME bug about this.
I'm fairly confused by the terminology and I'll split the blame for that on Synaptics, Apple, Microsoft and my (mal)adaptive behavior: after all I did finally say "fuck it" and reprogrammed myself to tolerate natural scrolling because I got sick of changing the setting everywhere.
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