On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 5:39 PM, Liam <liam.bulkley(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, that's the fundamental issue but I don't think we're
going to get any
movement on this at this point in time. The answer Workstation has gone with
was that it's for both, but with a bit of an emphasis on
developers/producers (I agree that the later term is better and emphasizes
how we should think).
My personal position has been that we should target ONLY producers. Make an
environment that helps them achieve their goals more easily/quicker or even
at all. That's what would draw people to the Fedora Workstation.
At this stage of the Linux lifecycle (20+ years and counting) you have
to ask, "What would take people *away* from Debian and Ubuntu and
guide them into the world of Fedora, RHEL and CentOS?" I don't think
you're going to get people off of Macs, and if they're on Windows they
live in a different world entirely. ;-)
And honestly, if you're developing *for* RHEL / CentOS, why would you
run a Fedora desktop instead of an RHEL / CentOS desktop? Fedora's
only 2.5 releases newer than Fedora 19, the basis for RHEL 7.
Being able
to watch movies, read books, share media, etc is something all the other
platforms can already do (and because of our values, those platforms aren't
hampered by being unable to distribute "proprietary" components) and
doesn't
distinguish us AT ALL, even if we did those things PERFECTLY.
I don't know about Macs - never owned one - but yeah, after looking at
the Windows 10 desktop they've tripled down on being a home
entertainment / gaming system. I think Windows is on a trajectory to
merge with XBox sooner rather than later, leaving their core business
users as the only market for something that doesn't resemble a huge
Zune. And given Microsoft's investment in cloud, I don't think there's
a desktop Office roadmap any more - it's all going to be browser-based
/ thin client apps. They'll clean up IE so business users don't have
to install Firefox or Chrome, but that's it. ;-)
Providing an environment that allowed video editors to more easily
create
the next classic animation, coders to more easily grapple a problem, or
giving sysadmins a better multi tasking de WOULD draw them in. In the end,
we want people who'll contribute and targeting those folks and their needs
is the best way to do that.
Indeed. I've seen a few posts go by in this thread praising Mozilla -
let me add to the chorus. Obviously there are lawyer-accountant things
that would have to be done, but I think a Fedora (Red Hat) partnership
with Mozilla is a damn good idea. I gave up on Chrome and Chromium a
long time ago. Firefox Developer Edition and HTML5/CSS3/JavaScript is
where it's at unless you're targeting iOS.