Ok, we are going in circles here. So lets be clear we all agree that we need a system
where the basics are working well. Ease of installation, robustness, driver support and so
on. The system can not be inherently broken. We all agree on that point.
So the next question becomes, what is the point of the PRD? First of all it is not to
define what applications people can or can not package for the Fedora ecosystem. If
someone wants to package 'My little Pony click-along adventures' that is perfectly
fine no matter what usecases or targets we list in the PRD.
The point of the PRD is to give an overall set of priorities/goals for the development
effort around each product. Meaning where are we going to spend engineering time beyond
the basic 'make the system work smoothly'. So if you are going to make general
consumers a specific target we need to back that up with development plans for general
consumer, like writing new applications for smoother facebook usage or more educational
software for kids or whatever you decide the 'general consumer' wants. So while
there might be software in such categories which ends up getting packaged for Fedora, I
don't think there is anyone on this list who actually plans on writing such software
for Fedora specifically.
So as I stated before and which also the PRD stated, we do hope that the workstation
becomes a solid and nice desktop that a lot of people can like and want to use, because at
the end of the day all users, developer or others, want the same baseline, a stable and
well working system. But I think the crucial thing here is that the goal of the new
products is not to just be the traditional Fedora packaging effort, but to be actual
development targets where at least Red Hat plans to put paid time on developing these
features. And thus putting in 'general users' as a usecase doesn't make sense
to me here, because as much as we all here would love to see 2014 be the year of the linux
desktop, that is very unlikely to happen just because we general users it in the PRD.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Garrett" <mjg59(a)srcf.ucam.org>
To: "Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop"
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 3:35:20 PM
Subject: Re: Workstation PRD approval
On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 09:29:04AM -0500, Christian Schaller wrote:
No, but if you are not going to put in the resources needed to truly
target the consumer market then adding a usecase where you claim you are is misleading.
What resources are required for doing so that wouldn't also be required
to support the developer usecase?
Matthew Garrett | mjg59(a)srcf.ucam.org
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