Am Montag, den 24.10.2011, 08:23 -0400 schrieb Matthias Clasen:
On Mon, 2011-10-24 at 13:26 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote:
> Am Montag, den 24.10.2011, 12:42 +0200 schrieb Elad:
> > I think there was even a thread about it in this list, which said that
> > every desktop should take care of loading the notification-daemon on
> > it's own.
> Nope, that was policykit agents, not notification daemons.
notification-daemon is in the same boat.
thanks for the answer and pointing me to the commit.
I have to admit I missed it and a heads-up to the maintainers of the
affected packages would have been nice.
While I do understand that GNOME no longer used dbus to start it, I
still don't understand why the desktop file was moved to another
We now receive complainants that notification-daemon no longer works in
Xfce or LXDE. To fix this, we need to install a copy of the desktop file
and mark it OnlyShowIn=Xfce or OnlyShowIn=LXDE. The same applies to
polkit-gnome. This means we end up with 8 desktop  files where we
previously only had 3 and still don't cover all combinations.
I don't see any improvement over the previous situation, instead I see
* users are still not free to decide for themselves what
notification daemon of polkit agent they want to run. In fact
they are more unfree than before.
* users of desktop display managers are no longer able to run
polkit applications and receive notifications. We'd require
another set of desktop files for each WM and this obviously
* I have to maintain 2 patched packages and so have many other
The only 'improvement' is that it's no longer your problem. I don't
understand why you had to apply this change when all it required was
some coordination between 3 package maintainers to agree on a sane set
of defaults. I made a working proposal for this .
Long story short: What do you suggest I should tell the people who
complain. They have asked what component they should file bugs against.
Are you ok with notification-daemon and polkit-gnome?
 polkit-gnome and notification-daemon in gnome-session, both
notification-daemons and polkit agents in xfce4-session and 2 files in