On 12/12/2014 02:28 PM, Peter Laursen wrote:
I cannot figure out how to get access to the ticket. I am also not sure I am interested in yet another such account.  I have more than enough accounts and subscriptions already spamming my mailbox.  So  I hope it is OK that I reply in this mail thread instead.

FWIW, you log in to Fedora Hosted using your FAS account, no need to create a new account.

regards,
ryanlerch

If I understand the discussion, it was a decision in an early stage of Fedora 21 Desktop development that it should not have a User Interface for firewall configuration.  And I think this is the basic problem and mistake. I cannot see how usability and security can be achieved at the same time without it  Even though it is not a server platform, you may still want to run server programs on it (typicaly for access by other systems on local network).  I can think of (at least):
* a test or learning instance of any database server
* all sorts of file servers
* media streaming services
.. and they will all require the port where the server listens to be open.

I think a very simple User Interface for firewall configuration should be added. It could be as simple as just allowing for opening of specific ports. I also don't think it will cause problems.  People can manage firewall(s) in Windows.  Dont' assume that users are more helpless than they are (that is/was Ubuntu's mistake IMO).

(and as a final remark the security issue is close to NULL for al the people running FD21 in a virtualized environment or behind a router. They will have the protection from the host OS or the router. But some people still use various types of modems and not routers of course)


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On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Paul W. Frields <stickster@gmail.com> wrote:
FYI: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1372

When responding to this ticket, please keep the discussion impersonal
and objective as possible.  We should plan to have a couple people at
the FESCo meeting next week if this is on the agenda.

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