----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul W. Frields" <stickster(a)gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 12:13:33 PM
Subject: Re: Dropping i686 media for F24
On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 12:37:46AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2016-01-20 at 15:39 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Adam Williamson
> > <adamwill(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2016-01-20 at 09:24 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 09:01:47AM -0500, Christian Schaller wrote:
> > > > > My hope that for F24 our download is not an iso image, but
> > > > > USB-creator. We could try to build some kind of GPU detection
> > > > > USB creator to have it choose a 64 bit image if the CPU
> > > > > it,
> > > > > and maybe that would help reduce our 32 bit numbers.
> > > >
> > > > Is there a change proposal filed for this? It's definitely the
> > > > of
> > > > thing which warrants it, for communication with the web and
> > > > infrastructure teams, and for marketing.
> > > >
> > > > The USB creator, presumably, is a small download, which then itself
> > > > does download of the ISO? I assume it's packaged as an installer
> > > > Windows and OS X -- what about for Linux? (Either for existing
> > > > users or distro-hoppers?)
> > >
> > > I think he's talking about liveusb-creator, in which case yes, this
> > > more or less what it is. I would be leery about making luc the
> > > download for Workstation given its current abilities and the resources
> > > currently devoted to it, though. In my experience it's the least
> > > reliable of the 'official' USB writing mechanisms, after dd-style
> > > writes (most reliable) and livecd-iso-to-disk. I'm also not sure if
> > > have a packaging of luc for non-Fedora distros or OS X.
> > Yeah but does luc do GPU detection,
> No, but Christian wrote "we could try to build" that, he didn't say
> already had it.
> > or download ISOs? I thought you
> > had to point it to an ISO file.
> luc does do downloads - you *can* point it at a file, but it also has
> both a built-in list of images it can download and write, and a remote
> URL it queries for an updated list when you hit a 'refresh' button (it
> should really pull the list on startup if you're connected to the
> internet, but it doesn't, I tried to fix this once and failed, maybe I
> should take another shot).
The interface could likely use some work as well. It contains jargon
a new user has no way to decipher. So it would be a good idea to
involve the Design team for that.
Yeah, I think we definitely need to make the text part of the Fedora release
process as I would assume that we want to adjust the descriptive text over time.
So maybe we can figure out a system where our design and marketing teams can
provide updated textual decscriptions for each release and in a format that
allows our translators to translate it before release.