Re: Discussion about F7-KDE-LiveCD

[Sebastian Vahl]

Am Tue, 06 Mar 2007 05:47:28 +0530
schrieb Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:

>  Sebastian Vahl wrote:
>  > Hi!
>  > 
>  > I want to start a discussion about the package list on a possible 
>  > f7-kde-livecd. It would be much easier for me to test some
>  > configurations when the direction is cleared. :)
>  > 
>  > So I've got some questions:
>  > 
>  > 1. Configuration: Do we want (according to the
>  > gnome/desktop-livecd) a base configuration and an "advanced"
>  > configuration? Of course only one (the advanced) would be created
>  > and published. But having a standard configuration would it make
>  > easier to change some things.
>  
>  I would prefer just a standard configuration. I dont think a split is 
>  necessary. The tools should be easy enough to use a single
>  configuration as a template to customize the packages further. 
I now think so, too. When also creating a live dvd, three configuration
files would be too much.


>  > 2. Browser/Email: Do we want Firefox and/or Evolution on the
>  > live-cd? (Be aware that space is limited)
>  
>  How much space? If there is space, it might be useful to include them. 
Only including firefox: Iso is 30 Mb bigger.
Including firefox and evolution: Iso is 40 Mb bigger.

>  
>  > 
>  > 3. Do we want krusader and/or dolphin on the live-cd? In general:
>  > Do we want duplications in the functionality of applications (not as
>  > easy as it sounds; eg. amarok vs. noatun?
>  
>  We have to get a complete list of potential duplicates and decide on
>  a case by case basis I think. While Krusader and Konqueror are both 
>  advanced user tool, I would consider including Dolphin  as the
>  default file manager (especially since it has got commonly requested
>  features like tree view and is scheduled to be the default for KDE 4)
>  and configure Konqueror to be the default web browser with the
>  profile being configured appropriate. 
I haven't tried dolphin for a long time. But last time it was not
localized and seems in an early stage (but functional). What I have
read dolphin for KDE4 is developed while developing of dolphin for KDE3
was stopped. But I'm not sure with this. 
In KDE3 konqueror is the default filemanager and I don't think we
should change this for a live cd.

>  > 4. What about localisation? The kde-i18n-packages are not
> really
>  > slim. So perhaps putting them on a live-dvd would be the better idea
>  > (gnome/desktop-livecd is fully localized)
>  
>  You probably cant include Openoffice.org if you include I18N
>  packages. I guess doing what GNOME live CD does makes sense. Do you
>  plan on providing a live DVD too? 
Localisation could only be included in a live dvd, I think. Otherwise
there would not be any other packages than some of the official kde
ones (eg no koffice or amarok due to space limitation). The packages of
kde-i18n-* and koffice-langpack-* takes about 340 Mb (downloaded rpms). 
ATM I'm not sure if livecd-creator is able to create a dvd. But having
a dvd (at least for localisation) would be great.

>  
>  > b) An "advanced" CD uses ~705 MB.
>  
>  Accessibility is also important. Do these sizes refer to compressed
>  ones? 
This was the size of the iso file created by mkisofs. The "advanced"
version I'm playing around with now is about 683MB.

I've set up a preliminary wiki page where I have described some
configurations: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SebastianVahl/KDELiveCD
This version is still splitted into three versions and it was not
discussed so far. Just want to have a start for todays KDE-SIG meeting.
Then it will be changed.

>  Rahul 
Sebastian