Re: IMPORTANT (release blocker): Status of Workstation network install

[Christian Schaller]

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> On 08/27/2014 02:46 PM, Owen Taylor wrote:
> > On Wed, 2014-08-27 at 10:28 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > Hi, folks! We did the release blocker bug review meeting today,
> > > and one of the bugs that came up for discussion was this one:
> > >
> > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1134524
> > >
> > > The question of whether this bug is a release blocker comes down
> > > pretty clearly to the status of the Workstation network install
> > > image. That is, the image is clearly busted, so if we care about
> > > that image, we should consider the bug a release blocker.
> >
> > I don't think the question is whether we care about the image - I
> > think the question is whether we make the image available!
> >
> > My strong opinions here are restricted to three things:
> > If made available, the netinst image must work. Otherwise,
> >
> > we're blaming the user for our bugs.
> > What you get going through either path should be identical;
> >
> > installing from the network shouldn't put you into a
> > choose-your-own-adventure path of selecting desktops and optional
> > server components.
> >
> > This may be more aspirational for F21 than something we can achieve
> > this cycle.
> > The netinst image should not look like an equal alternative to
> >
> > the "live" image (which I think is a misnomer) in the web
> > presentation. Making it seem you need to decide whether you want to
> > try out Fedora first or just install it is deceptive; generally,
> > we want people to just go ahead and get the full image.
> >
> > I don't have strong opinions about whether we make the netinst
> > image available at all. My vague feeling is that yes, it should be
> > available, because it's more similar to a kickstarted installation
> > of the workstation, which is probably useful have working and
> > tested to give identical results to the live image installation.
>
> The other thing here is that without a netinstall, it becomes very
> difficult for a site to do multiple deployments easily. I think we
> want people to be able to write a PXE-boot installer for Workstation
> and relying on the live ISO might be an impediment to that.

I agree that we need a network install of the Workstation, so lets figure out 
how to fix it :)

Christian