Riddle me this:
If all you ever do is ignore the community you claim to be part of, then how are you actually a part of the community? It seems to me that ignoring the rest of the Fedora community is not the way to be part of that community.
Seriously, who do you think you are to ignore the decisions of the governing bodies of that community? Such massive arrogance just baffles me; are you all seriously on such and ego trip that you think that your way is the only way?
I admit that it confounds me as to why Fedora still considers Gnome to be a release blocking desktop. I am going to propose that as a feature of Fedora 21 that Gnome be dropped as a release blocker and be replaced with xfce. This move would also dovetail nicely with ARM's status as a primary architecture, since the Gnome devs don't see fit to even bother making their software work on ARM.
John.
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 2:12 PM, John Dulaney jdulaney@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Riddle me this:
If all you ever do is ignore the community you claim to be part of, then how are you actually a part of the community? It seems to me that ignoring the rest of the Fedora community is not the way to be part of that community.
Seriously, who do you think you are to ignore the decisions of the governing bodies of that community? Such massive arrogance just baffles me; are you all seriously on such and ego trip that you think that your way is the only way?
You sent this to a mailing list with no explicit CCs. I'm not sure who "you" is in your questioning. There are quite a few people on this list. Some of them, including myself, have recently subscribed because of the Workstation Working Group, which is a new effort we're just getting started. The WG is trying hard to work with the community and through the processes set by FESCo and the Board.
If you would like to address specific people, please do so by emailing them directly.
I admit that it confounds me as to why Fedora still considers Gnome to be a release blocking desktop. I am going to propose that as a feature of Fedora 21 that Gnome be dropped as a release blocker and be replaced with xfce. This move would also
Please do! I encourage all contributors to put effort behind the changes they'd like to see made.
dovetail nicely with ARM's status as a primary architecture, since the Gnome devs don't see fit to even bother making their software work on ARM.
I don't have insight as to what you're talking about on this part, but if you have list or bug links that would be helpful. I'm sure you're aware that most existing ARM boards lack suitable video drivers and GNOME3 makes extensive use of accelerated video. Forcing the GNOME developers to solve a lack of hardware support seems a bit unfair.
josh
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:12 PM, John Dulaney jdulaney@fedoraproject.org wrote:
This move would also dovetail nicely with ARM's status as a primary architecture, since the Gnome devs don't see fit to even bother making their software work on ARM.
You got that backwards its not GNOME that does not run on ARM its the current state of ARM that is years behind other architectures (namely x86 and x86_64) in terms of hardware support. There is no architecture specific code in gnome.
On 01/24/2014 07:12 PM, John Dulaney wrote:
I admit that it confounds me as to why Fedora still considers Gnome to be a release blocking desktop. I am going to propose that as a feature of Fedora 21 that Gnome be dropped as a release blocker and be replaced with xfce.
Switching one desktop environment for another is not the solution thus not the way forward...
JBG
desktop@lists.fedoraproject.org
-
drago01 -
John Dulaney -
Josh Boyer -
Jóhann B. Guðmundsson