On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 03:52:25PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 12:34 PM, Hans de Goede
> On 28-04-18 00:45, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> Yeah I'm totally lost on this, not least of which is I'm not
>> experiencing the behavior reported in the bug or the release notes.
>> The application referenced in the release notes is not installed by
>> default. And the application once installed doesn't have the options
>> in it that the release notes says it should have.
> So there are 2 possible explanations for why you are / your laptop is
> not affected by this:
> 1) You've once upon a time changed the setting in gnome-tweak-tool,
> so it is no longer at its "default" value (which now changed) but
> pinned to the value you've chosen
I had to install Tweaks so since the last clean install, the default
was not changed by me.
you may have changed it via gsettings directly (see my other email)
> 2) Linux does not properly recognize your touchpad as a
> so it is running in mouse emulation, since you also wrote:
No idea whether it's in mouse emulation or how to determine if it is.
$ dmesg | grep -i synap
[ 1.527140] psmouse serio1: synaptics: queried max coordinates: x
[..5690], y [..4772]
[ 1.556655] psmouse serio1: synaptics: queried min coordinates: x
[1250..], y [1084..]
[ 1.556660] psmouse serio1: synaptics: Your touchpad (PNP: SYN3217
SYN1e00 SYN0002 PNP0f13) says it can support a different bus. If
i2c-hid and hid-rmi are not used, you might want to try setting
psmouse.synaptics_intertouch to 1 and report this to
[ 1.614463] psmouse serio1: synaptics: Touchpad model: 1, fw: 8.2,
id: 0x1e2b1, caps: 0xf00123/0x840300/0x12e800/0x400000, board id:
3214, fw id: 2407757
[ 1.651393] input: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad as
it's not in mouse emulation, otherwise you'd see a PS/2 Wheel Mouse device.
fwiw, googling for the PNP ids suggests you have HP Spectre, and looking at
the pictures of the current model indicates you have a clickpad.
>> (And off topic but I do *not* like that very prominent HURT
>> labeled "Touchpad" with an on/off slider. Turning it off is for real
>> and easy. Turning it back on again? Hahaha, figure it out yourself!)
> 2) seems unlikely, because in mouse-emulation mode that button
> would not hurt you. Note there is a good rationale for having that
> button, some people seriously like touchpads only use the trackstick
> or always carry an actual mouse with them.
Tried it, it does in fact turn off the touchpad entirely, and it took
me a while to figure out how to turn it back on.
We have an auto-revert timeout when making certain video changes that
might result in the computer becoming unusable.
There's a similar-ish bug for a touch input toggle open here:
IMO the most appropriate course would be for GNOME to be aware of available
pointer devices and re-enable the touchpad automatically when all other
pointer devices disappear. Doable but there are a few tricky details, in
addition to the whole issue of "someone needs to actually write that code".
> > FWIW I personally I'm not in favor of the change of the default from
> > the tried and trusted PC / windows standard button-areas behavior to
> > the mac click-finger behavior. I've stated as much in the GNOME bug about
> > this.
> I'm fairly confused by the terminology and I'll split the blame for
> that on Synaptics, Apple, Microsoft and my (mal)adaptive behavior:
> after all I did finally say "fuck it" and reprogrammed myself to
> tolerate natural scrolling because I got sick of changing the setting
> Chris Murphy
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