10 a.m.
The system-config-users tool only works under X. Is it planned for update to run under
Wayland or should I submit a bug report? It is a very useful tool.
11:53 a.m.
On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 11:13:22AM -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> The system-config-users tool only works under X. Is it planned
for
> update to run under Wayland or should I submit a bug report? It is a
> very useful tool.
You should submit a bug report!
I'm afraid this is one of those "app is designed to run in a GUI as
root" things, and it may need an entire re-write. I agree that it's a
nice tool for systems-administration, with a UI that may fit that
mindset better than the GNOME control panel applet Users. (The GNOME
applet doesn't expose things like groups, other than the Administrator
abstraction for Wheel, and doesn't let you set uids or anything like
that, etc.)
If someone wants to update system-config-users, awesome. But If we're
deciding where to focus resources to cover this use case, I'd argue
that we're probably better teaching people about Cockpit (and making
any needed improvements there).
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Matthew Miller
<mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>
Fedora Project Leader
10:54 a.m.
Matthew Miller píše v Ne 15. 01. 2017 v 12:53 -0500:
On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 11:13:22AM -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> > The system-config-users tool only works under X. Is it planned
> > for
> > update to run under Wayland or should I submit a bug report? It
> > is a
> > very useful tool.
>
> You should submit a bug report!
I'm afraid this is one of those "app is designed to run in a GUI as
root" things, and it may need an entire re-write. I agree that it's a
nice tool for systems-administration, with a UI that may fit that
mindset better than the GNOME control panel applet Users. (The GNOME
applet doesn't expose things like groups, other than the
Administrator
abstraction for Wheel, and doesn't let you set uids or anything like
that, etc.)
If someone wants to update system-config-users, awesome. But If we're
deciding where to focus resources to cover this use case, I'd argue
that we're probably better teaching people about Cockpit (and making
any needed improvements there).
I agree. Instead of keeping these legacy apps alive, it's better to
direct people to Cockpit.
It's written in Python 2 and GTK+ 2. It'd require a complete rewrite
and I don't think anyone will ever do that.
Jiri
2:33 p.m.
I will use the command-line until Cockpit does the job.
From the replies I assume this will be handled without
a bug report.
Thanks,
Norman
4:43 a.m.
Norman L Smith píše v Po 16. 01. 2017 v 15:33 -0500:
I will use the command-line until Cockpit does the job.
From the replies I assume this will be handled without
a bug report.
No, I don't think it will be handled without a bug report. Cockpit
already supports user account management. If you miss any feature there
, you should file a bug report with RFE.
Jiri
6:50 a.m.
On 01/17/2017 05:43 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote:
Norman L Smith píše v Po 16. 01. 2017 v 15:33 -0500:
> I will use the command-line until Cockpit does the job.
>
> From the replies I assume this will be handled without
> a bug report.
No, I don't think it will be handled without a bug report. Cockpit
already supports user account management. If you miss any feature there
, you should file a bug report with RFE.
Yes, I spoke with Stef Walter yesterday and he'd like the Workstation SIG to
provide a list of functionality that they want to see supported in user account
management.
Today, the user features in Cockpit are very limited, so providing use-cases and
requests would be ideal. A set of RFE tickets on
https://github.com/cockpit-project/cockpit/issues would likely be appreciated.
4:41 a.m.
----- Original Message -----
On 01/17/2017 05:43 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote:
> Norman L Smith píše v Po 16. 01. 2017 v 15:33 -0500:
>> I will use the command-line until Cockpit does the job.
>>
>> From the replies I assume this will be handled without
>> a bug report.
>
> No, I don't think it will be handled without a bug report. Cockpit
> already supports user account management. If you miss any feature there
> , you should file a bug report with RFE.
>
Yes, I spoke with Stef Walter yesterday and he'd like the Workstation SIG to
provide a list of functionality that they want to see supported in user
account
management.
That's a really weird question to ask. I would certainly imagine that the SIG
would say that the Users settings panel matches whatever functionality
is required.
Today, the user features in Cockpit are very limited, so providing
use-cases
and
requests would be ideal. A set of RFE tickets on
https://github.com/cockpit-project/cockpit/issues would likely be
appreciated.
Folks for whom the User settings panel doesn't provide enough functionality
should file those bugs indeed.
12:06 p.m.
On Wed, 2017-01-18 at 05:41 -0500, Bastien Nocera wrote:
----- Original Message -----
>
> On 01/17/2017 05:43 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote:
> >
> > Norman L Smith píše v Po 16. 01. 2017 v 15:33 -0500:
> > >
> > > I will use the command-line until Cockpit does the job.
> > >
> > > From the replies I assume this will be handled without
> > > a bug report.
> >
> > No, I don't think it will be handled without a bug report.
> > Cockpit
> > already supports user account management. If you miss any feature
> > there
> > , you should file a bug report with RFE.
> >
>
> Yes, I spoke with Stef Walter yesterday and he'd like the
> Workstation SIG to
> provide a list of functionality that they want to see supported in
> user
> account
> management.
That's a really weird question to ask. I would certainly imagine that
the SIG
would say that the Users settings panel matches whatever
functionality
is required.
>
> Today, the user features in Cockpit are very limited, so providing
> use-cases
> and
> requests would be ideal. A set of RFE tickets on
> https://github.com/cockpit-project/cockpit/issues would likely be
> appreciated.
Folks for whom the User settings panel doesn't provide enough
functionality
should file those bugs indeed.
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I created a bug on Gnome bugzilla and posted a RFE issue on github for
the Cockpit project.
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=777461
https://github.com/cockpit-project/cockpit/issues/5762
Hope it is not overkill.
Norman
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