meeting time

[Ray Strode]

What time should we have the desktop SIG meetings?

We currently do 2-3 on Wednesday.

--Ray

[Ray Strode]

Hi,
>  We currently do 2-3 on Wednesday.
>  
2-3 US east coast time, if that's not clear.  As in the meeting just ended.

--Ray

[Rahul Sundaram]

Ray Strode wrote:
>  Hi,
> >
> > We currently do 2-3 on Wednesday.
> >
>  2-3 US east coast time, if that's not clear.  As in the meeting just ended. 
10 AM in US east cost might be better for those in IST.  Can someone 
kindly start posting the irc logs for the meetings too?

Rahul

(Hoping third time is lucky)

[Christopher Aillon]

Ray Strode wrote:
>  What time should we have the desktop SIG meetings? 
An important consideration is the official meeting channel schedule[1]. 
  If we want to continue to have the meetings in #fedora-meeting, we 
should be mindful of this.

Else, we could pick any time and have the meetings on a different 
channel.  Preferably GimpNet, since it seems most of the desktop hackers 
are on #fedora-desktop there and forget to join #fedora-meeting for this 
meeting.

[1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/FedoraMeetingChannel

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[Ray Strode]

Christopher Aillon wrote:
>  Ray Strode wrote:
> > What time should we have the desktop SIG meetings?
>
>  An important consideration is the official meeting channel 
>  schedule[1].  If we want to continue to have the meetings in 
>  #fedora-meeting, we should be mindful of this.
>
>  Else, we could pick any time and have the meetings on a different 
>  channel.  Preferably GimpNet, since it seems most of the desktop 
>  hackers are on #fedora-desktop there and forget to join 
>  #fedora-meeting for this meeting.
>
>  [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/FedoraMeetingChannel
>  
I would be up for using a different channel just because it would be 
easier to post irc logs.  right now, getting the logs means sifting 
through all the other meetings so I never volunteer when mether asks for 
them.

--Ray

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[Toshio Kuratomi]

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Ray Strode wrote:
>  I would be up for using a different channel just because it would be
>  easier to post irc logs.  right now, getting the logs means sifting
>  through all the other meetings so I never volunteer when mether asks for
>  them.
>   
Having all the meetings in one channel was done so people who wanted to
stay informed of multiple parts of fedora could log one channel to see
what was going on.  This helps to spread your message outside of your
particular group to the larger community.

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[Seth Vidal]

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>  Ray Strode wrote:
>  > I would be up for using a different channel just because it would be
>  > easier to post irc logs.  right now, getting the logs means sifting
>  > through all the other meetings so I never volunteer when mether asks for
>  > them.
>  > 
>  Having all the meetings in one channel was done so people who wanted to
>  stay informed of multiple parts of fedora could log one channel to see
>  what was going on.  This helps to spread your message outside of your
>  particular group to the larger community.
>   
+1
I sit in #fedora-meeting to monitor for certain keywords on purpose.

-sv

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[Christopher Aillon]

Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
>  Having all the meetings in one channel was done so people who wanted
> to
>  stay informed of multiple parts of fedora could log one channel to see
>  what was going on.  This helps to spread your message outside of your
>  particular group to the larger community. 
If we're in the position where we need to make a call between letting 
more people participate vs. letting more people lurk, I'm going to vote 
to move our meetings to a different channel.

The prime #fedora-meeting spots have been largely taken, which makes it 
harder to work around schedules.

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[Toshio Kuratomi]

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Christopher Aillon wrote:
>  Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> > Having all the meetings in one channel was done so people who wanted to
> > stay informed of multiple parts of fedora could log one channel to see
> > what was going on.  This helps to spread your message outside of your
> > particular group to the larger community.
>  
>  If we're in the position where we need to make a call between letting
>  more people participate vs. letting more people lurk, I'm going to vote
>  to move our meetings to a different channel.
>   
That's definitely one valid point.  A counter is that people who are
working together will find ways of communicating with each other outside
of meetings whereas people who are more peripheral to the decision
making need the focus of a meeting to be able to know where to go to see
 what's being discussed by whom.

>  The prime #fedora-meeting spots have been largely taken, which makes
> it
>  harder to work around schedules.
>   
You need to be careful of that, though.  It also means that people who
may have wanted to participate are unable to because they're already in
another meeting.

That said, maybe it is time to have a #fedora-meeting2.

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[Christopher Aillon]

Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> > The prime #fedora-meeting spots have been largely taken, which
> makes it
> > harder to work around schedules.
> > 
>  You need to be careful of that, though.  It also means that people who
>  may have wanted to participate are unable to because they're already in
>  another meeting. 
It's a problem, but something that we're going to have to face at some 
point anyway as Fedora grows.

I merely brought up the channel thing because the existing time was 
chosen as it best fit many people's schedules within the constraints. 
Changing the time might mean changing the constraints and moving to a 
different channel.

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[Ray Strode]

Hi,
>  > I would be up for using a different channel just because it
> would be
>  > easier to post irc logs.  right now, getting the logs means sifting
>  > through all the other meetings so I never volunteer when mether asks for
>  > them.
>  > 
>  Having all the meetings in one channel was done so people who wanted to
>  stay informed of multiple parts of fedora could log one channel to see
>  what was going on.  This helps to spread your message outside of your
>  particular group to the larger community. 
One thing that might be interesting would
be if #fedora-meeting could 
have a bot that does logging automatically and puts them up somewhere.

I've seen irc meetings before where they do things like

docbot start meeting
docbot stop meeting

and it automatically posts logs somewhere.  If we had that kind of bot, 
then everyone who used #fedora-meeting could benefit from it.

--Ray

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[Toshio Kuratomi]

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Ray Strode wrote:

>  One thing that might be interesting would be if #fedora-meeting
> could
>  have a bot that does logging automatically and puts them up somewhere.
>  
>  I've seen irc meetings before where they do things like
>  
>  docbot start meeting
>  docbot stop meeting
>  
>  and it automatically posts logs somewhere.  If we had that kind of bot,
>  then everyone who used #fedora-meeting could benefit from it.
>   
Absolutely.  People have been mentioning this possibility since the
channel was created but so far no one has implemented it.

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[Ray Strode]

Hi,
>  > One thing that might be interesting would be if #fedora-meeting
> could
>  > have a bot that does logging automatically and puts them up somewhere.
>  > 
>  > I've seen irc meetings before where they do things like
>  > 
>  > docbot start meeting
>  > docbot stop meeting
>  > 
>  > and it automatically posts logs somewhere.  If we had that kind of bot,
>  > then everyone who used #fedora-meeting could benefit from it.
>  > 
>  Absolutely.  People have been mentioning this possibility since the
>  channel was created but so far no one has implemented it.
>
>     
Maybe we can just steal i18nbot from #eng-i18n

--Ray

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[Robin Norwood]

Ray Strode <rstrode(a)redhat.com&gt; writes:

>  Hi,
> > > One thing that might be interesting would be if #fedora-meeting could
> > > have a bot that does logging automatically and puts them up somewhere.
> > > > I've seen irc meetings before where they do things like
> > > > docbot start meeting
> > > docbot stop meeting
> > > > and it automatically posts logs somewhere.  If we had that kind
> > of bot,
> > > then everyone who used #fedora-meeting could benefit from it.
> > > Absolutely.  People have been mentioning this possibility since
> > the
> > channel was created but so far no one has implemented it.
> >
> >   
>  Maybe we can just steal i18nbot from #eng-i18n 
I hacked on such a bot awhile ago.  Let me see if I can revive it and
make it useful.

-RN

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Robin Norwood
Red Hat, Inc.

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