1:01 p.m.
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 17:54:55 +0100
From: Bart Kalita <bartk(a)clara.co.uk>
Subject: wallpapers cont.
To: fedora-desktop-list(a)redhat.com
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Well,
here we go.
4 wallpapers for you to look at and hopefully give me some feedback.
2 unnamed ones are unfinished but show the idea that I would like to
pursue.
other 2 are just 1280x1024 updates to ones I've shown before.
Please drop me a line if you find them at least interesting and what you
think about the "3"
I still hope that there is somebody from redhat that monitors this group
and has access to proper FC3 logos + would not mind sharing them with
the group ... i.e me.
www.bart-domain.com/fedora/
links to full images are via the scaled ones.
enjoy
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http://astradine.no-ip.org
Looks nice! :D
Really cool - only prob. as far as i can se is that they migth be a bit
"fancy" beckause of huge contrasts and bright colours - ie. distracting
etc. But my vote is to include them - but not as default!
Good job.
Kyrre Ness Sjøbæk
12:50 a.m.
New subject: Fedora-desktop-list Digest, Vol 6, Issue 23
Helo guys, I had made a wallpaper, could you guys give a comment,
sugestion, and criticsm for my art work. (I hope this wallpaper could
bundle with fedora core 3 :D )
But could i Upload it to www.gnome-look.org or www.kde-look.org ?
thanks
On Sat, 2004-08-28 at 20:01 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote:
> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 17:54:55 +0100
> From: Bart Kalita <bartk(a)clara.co.uk>
> Subject: wallpapers cont.
> To: fedora-desktop-list(a)redhat.com
> Message-ID: <1093452895.8990.19.camel(a)nemesis.astradine.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> Well,
>
> here we go.
>
> 4 wallpapers for you to look at and hopefully give me some feedback.
>
> 2 unnamed ones are unfinished but show the idea that I would like to
> pursue.
>
> other 2 are just 1280x1024 updates to ones I've shown before.
>
> Please drop me a line if you find them at least interesting and what you
> think about the "3"
>
> I still hope that there is somebody from redhat that monitors this group
> and has access to proper FC3 logos + would not mind sharing them with
> the group ... i.e me.
>
> www.bart-domain.com/fedora/
>
> links to full images are via the scaled ones.
>
> enjoy
> --
>
_____________________________________________________________________________________
>
> Bart Kalita MCP
>
> Registered Linux User #347493 Fedora Core 3 test 1
>
> http://www.bart-domain.com
>
> http://astradine.no-ip.org
Looks nice! :D
Really cool - only prob. as far as i can se is that they migth be a bit
"fancy" beckause of huge contrasts and bright colours - ie. distracting
etc. But my vote is to include them - but not as default!
Good job.
Kyrre Ness Sjøbæk
2:04 a.m.
New subject: Fedora-desktop-list Digest, Vol 6, Issue 23
On Sunday 2004-08-29 19:50, Rubi Sutanto wrote:
Helo guys, I had made a wallpaper, could you guys give a comment,
sugestion, and criticsm for my art work. (I hope this wallpaper could
bundle with fedora core 3 :D )
It makes me sick. It uses both a MacOS Trademarked Logo,
and names the disk drives as per WinDOwS. But then I don't
think ANY desktop artwork is worth a damn, because I have
no use for a desktop in the first place.. it's the ONE
totally dysfunctional "window" that you can't bring to the
top of the stack. I access everything from menues, from
auto-hiding function bars that popup over every other window,
and basically never see my desktop. But in the rare circumstances
I do see my desktop I for sure don't want to see anything that would
make me think I'm dealing with either Steve or Bill's creations.
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2:17 a.m.
New subject: desktop backgrounds [was Re: Fedora-desktop-list Digest, Vol 6, Issue 23]
Hi,
On Mon, 2004-08-30 at 08:04, Angela Kahealani wrote:
On Sunday 2004-08-29 19:50, Rubi Sutanto wrote:
> Helo guys, I had made a wallpaper, could you guys give a comment,
> sugestion, and criticsm for my art work. (I hope this wallpaper could
> bundle with fedora core 3 :D )
It makes me sick. It uses both a MacOS Trademarked Logo,
and names the disk drives as per WinDOwS.
You're referring to the icons on the desktop, not the desktop
background which Rubi was looking for comments on.
But then I don't
think ANY desktop artwork is worth a damn, because I have
no use for a desktop in the first place.. it's the ONE
totally dysfunctional "window" that you can't bring to the
top of the stack. I access everything from menues, from
auto-hiding function bars that popup over every other window,
and basically never see my desktop. But in the rare circumstances
I do see my desktop I for sure don't want to see anything that would
make me think I'm dealing with either Steve or Bill's creations.
Please keep rants like this to yourself.
Thanks,
Mark.
2:30 a.m.
New subject: desktop backgrounds [was Re: Fedora-desktop-list Digest, Vol 6, Issue 23]
On Sunday 2004-08-29 21:17, Mark McLoughlin wrote:
Hi,
On Mon, 2004-08-30 at 08:04, Angela Kahealani wrote:
> On Sunday 2004-08-29 19:50, Rubi Sutanto wrote:
> > Helo guys, I had made a wallpaper, could you guys give a comment,
> > sugestion, and criticsm for my art work. (I hope this wallpaper
> > could bundle with fedora core 3 :D )
>
> It makes me sick. It uses both a MacOS Trademarked Logo,
> and names the disk drives as per WinDOwS.
You're referring to the icons on the desktop, not the desktop
background which Rubi was looking for comments on.
I looked at what he sent to us.
Please keep rants like this to yourself.
He said: "could you guys give a comment". I did.
It's off topic. Artwork is NOT Fedora specific.
Keep OFF-TOPIC e-mail out of my Fedora mailing list subscription!
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UCC1-207. All information and transactions are non negotiable and are
private between the parties. http://www.kahealani.com/
2:51 a.m.
New subject: desktop backgrounds [was Re: Fedora-desktop-list Digest, Vol 6, Issue 23]
On Mon, 2004-08-30 at 08:30, Angela Kahealani wrote:
On Sunday 2004-08-29 21:17, Mark McLoughlin wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, 2004-08-30 at 08:04, Angela Kahealani wrote:
> > On Sunday 2004-08-29 19:50, Rubi Sutanto wrote:
> > > Helo guys, I had made a wallpaper, could you guys give a comment,
> > > sugestion, and criticsm for my art work. (I hope this wallpaper
> > > could bundle with fedora core 3 :D )
> >
> > It makes me sick. It uses both a MacOS Trademarked Logo,
> > and names the disk drives as per WinDOwS.
>
> You're referring to the icons on the desktop, not the desktop
> background which Rubi was looking for comments on.
I looked at what he sent to us.
... and ignored what he specifically asked for comments on.
> Please keep rants like this to yourself.
He said: "could you guys give a comment". I did.
It's off topic. Artwork is NOT Fedora specific.
Keep OFF-TOPIC e-mail out of my Fedora mailing list subscription!
Excuse me?
[markmc@blaa markmc]$ rpm -q redhat-artwork
redhat-artwork-0.98-1
[markmc@blaa markmc]$ rpm -qf /usr/share/backgrounds/images/default.png
desktop-backgrounds-basic-2.0-21
Fedora has its own artwork, Rubi suggested a new desktop background,
you ranted about the icons on his desktop.
Good Luck,
Mark.
3:14 a.m.
New subject: desktop backgrounds [was Re: Fedora-desktop-list Digest, Vol 6, Issue 23]
On Sunday 2004-08-29 21:51, Mark McLoughlin wrote:
Fedora has its own artwork, Rubi suggested a new desktop
background,
you ranted about the icons on his desktop.
I did not rant... you passed judgement upon my opinion that it was a
"rant". He asked for OPINIONS, I gave mine. He got what he asked for.
As for "desktop"s, the best desktop is a simple neutral 50% grey...
it's the ONLY background that will not pollute your color perception of
anything else showing on the screen. If you're not doing serious color
sensitive work, but merely like eye-candy, then you're dealing with
very personal preferences, and have forsaken color correct perception.
If you're editing / color correcting graphics or video, you need a
neutral grey surround, and monitor color temperature calibration and
gamma compensation appropriate for the target medium, either print or
NTSC video or computer video.
So, artwork on the desktop cannot be taken seriously, as any serious
rational approach can only lead where I went in the previous paragraph.
Therefore, as someone once said: "I don't know much about art, but I do
know what I like". Rubi solicited opinions, and got what he asked for.
Art being non rational and of widely varying tastes, it's no wonder
that most "desktop" software ships with a wide variety of sample
backgrounds, so yeah, go ahead and include it as one of those. Great.
My desktop will remain a rarely seen neutral 50% grey, mostly only seen
as a surround for Gimp work when I bother to hide all other open
windows in order to obtain collor correct perception of what I'm
editing in the Gimp.
If Rubi wants an evaluation of the artwork, it would be better to send
it without iconic overlays, allowing us to install and test it on our
own desktops... but as he submitted it to us, it WAS a piece of artwork
that included a TradeMarked icon that could not be conveniently or
easily removed for evaluation of the art on its' own merit.
Icons invoke associations. Include them in artwork upon which opinions
are requested, and the opinion will be colored with the association
invoked by the icon, just as a non grey surround alters color
perception of an image in a window that does not fill the screen.
Are we having fun yet?
--
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UCC1-207. All information and transactions are non negotiable and are
private between the parties. http://www.kahealani.com/
5:10 a.m.
New subject: desktop backgrounds [was Re: Fedora-desktop-list Digest, Vol 6, Issue 23]
Helo I want to sorry to all,
I only want you guys give me a comment to my wallpaper not my desktop,
cause i only download the themes and use it in my desktop except
wallpaper that i made my selft, sory i think the screenshoot the desktop
will be better than only wallpaper that i attach, once agai i'm sorry if
you guys don't like my desktop themes. once again i'm only want a
commnent for my wallpaper not the desktop themes thanks again.
On Sun, 2004-08-29 at 22:14 -1000, Angela Kahealani wrote:
On Sunday 2004-08-29 21:51, Mark McLoughlin wrote:
> Fedora has its own artwork, Rubi suggested a new desktop background,
> you ranted about the icons on his desktop.
I did not rant... you passed judgement upon my opinion that it was a
"rant". He asked for OPINIONS, I gave mine. He got what he asked for.
As for "desktop"s, the best desktop is a simple neutral 50% grey...
it's the ONLY background that will not pollute your color perception of
anything else showing on the screen. If you're not doing serious color
sensitive work, but merely like eye-candy, then you're dealing with
very personal preferences, and have forsaken color correct perception.
If you're editing / color correcting graphics or video, you need a
neutral grey surround, and monitor color temperature calibration and
gamma compensation appropriate for the target medium, either print or
NTSC video or computer video.
So, artwork on the desktop cannot be taken seriously, as any serious
rational approach can only lead where I went in the previous paragraph.
Therefore, as someone once said: "I don't know much about art, but I do
know what I like". Rubi solicited opinions, and got what he asked for.
Art being non rational and of widely varying tastes, it's no wonder
that most "desktop" software ships with a wide variety of sample
backgrounds, so yeah, go ahead and include it as one of those. Great.
My desktop will remain a rarely seen neutral 50% grey, mostly only seen
as a surround for Gimp work when I bother to hide all other open
windows in order to obtain collor correct perception of what I'm
editing in the Gimp.
If Rubi wants an evaluation of the artwork, it would be better to send
it without iconic overlays, allowing us to install and test it on our
own desktops... but as he submitted it to us, it WAS a piece of artwork
that included a TradeMarked icon that could not be conveniently or
easily removed for evaluation of the art on its' own merit.
Icons invoke associations. Include them in artwork upon which opinions
are requested, and the opinion will be colored with the association
invoked by the icon, just as a non grey surround alters color
perception of an image in a window that does not fill the screen.
Are we having fun yet?
--
Copyright 2004 Angela Kahealani. All rights reserved without prejudice;
UCC1-207. All information and transactions are non negotiable and are
private between the parties. http://www.kahealani.com/
5:23 a.m.
New subject: desktop backgrounds [was Re: Fedora-desktop-list Digest, Vol 6, Issue 23]
This is my wallapaper please a comment, sorry with all i have done. I'm
a newbie linux user.
On Sun, 2004-08-29 at 22:14 -1000, Angela Kahealani wrote:
On Sunday 2004-08-29 21:51, Mark McLoughlin wrote:
> Fedora has its own artwork, Rubi suggested a new desktop background,
> you ranted about the icons on his desktop.
I did not rant... you passed judgement upon my opinion that it was a
"rant". He asked for OPINIONS, I gave mine. He got what he asked for.
As for "desktop"s, the best desktop is a simple neutral 50% grey...
it's the ONLY background that will not pollute your color perception of
anything else showing on the screen. If you're not doing serious color
sensitive work, but merely like eye-candy, then you're dealing with
very personal preferences, and have forsaken color correct perception.
If you're editing / color correcting graphics or video, you need a
neutral grey surround, and monitor color temperature calibration and
gamma compensation appropriate for the target medium, either print or
NTSC video or computer video.
So, artwork on the desktop cannot be taken seriously, as any serious
rational approach can only lead where I went in the previous paragraph.
Therefore, as someone once said: "I don't know much about art, but I do
know what I like". Rubi solicited opinions, and got what he asked for.
Art being non rational and of widely varying tastes, it's no wonder
that most "desktop" software ships with a wide variety of sample
backgrounds, so yeah, go ahead and include it as one of those. Great.
My desktop will remain a rarely seen neutral 50% grey, mostly only seen
as a surround for Gimp work when I bother to hide all other open
windows in order to obtain collor correct perception of what I'm
editing in the Gimp.
If Rubi wants an evaluation of the artwork, it would be better to send
it without iconic overlays, allowing us to install and test it on our
own desktops... but as he submitted it to us, it WAS a piece of artwork
that included a TradeMarked icon that could not be conveniently or
easily removed for evaluation of the art on its' own merit.
Icons invoke associations. Include them in artwork upon which opinions
are requested, and the opinion will be colored with the association
invoked by the icon, just as a non grey surround alters color
perception of an image in a window that does not fill the screen.
Are we having fun yet?
--
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UCC1-207. All information and transactions are non negotiable and are
private between the parties. http://www.kahealani.com/
6:11 a.m.
New subject: desktop backgrounds
On Monday 2004-08-30 00:23, Rubi Sutanto wrote:
This is my wallapaper please a comment
Hey, that's a pretty blue curve!
However, if you remove the "3" it will be usable on ALL versions of
Fedora Core, not just FC3.
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8:28 a.m.
New subject: desktop backgrounds
Interesting discussion that I get to start the list with.
Your desktop background is GREAT Rubi. You did a wonderful job on it.
Kasey
On Monday 2004-08-30 00:23, Rubi Sutanto wrote:
> This is my wallapaper please a comment
Hey, that's a pretty blue curve!
However, if you remove the "3" it will be usable on ALL versions of
Fedora Core, not just FC3.
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10:33 a.m.
New subject: desktop backgrounds
Hello All,
Thanks for the support, soon i will make a splash screen, for 1600 x
1200 you guys could download it from www.kde-look.org /
www.gnome-look.org or in fedoraforum.org gallery.
for Angela i'll make fedora core version by remove 3 from the wallpaper,
if had done i'll send to you email :)
and for GDM it think i will have trouble with the script, and it will
take a long time to built it and the icons i need more practice :)
thanks again :)
If you guys want to see another version from my wallpaper you could
search in kde-look.org and gnome-look.org with xsos as keyword in form
provide by:
GBU
On Mon, 2004-08-30 at 08:28 -0500, Kasey Speakman wrote:
Interesting discussion that I get to start the list with.
Your desktop background is GREAT Rubi. You did a wonderful job on it.
Kasey
> On Monday 2004-08-30 00:23, Rubi Sutanto wrote:
>> This is my wallapaper please a comment
>
> Hey, that's a pretty blue curve!
> However, if you remove the "3" it will be usable on ALL versions of
> Fedora Core, not just FC3.
>
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