Meet the desktop team

[Matthias Clasen]

There have been some discussions on fedora-desktop-list recently about
making the desktop livecd spin a better desktop. We (the RH desktop
team) would like to take this on, by taking "editorial control" of the
desktop livecd spin, and transforming it into an awesome desktop.

We'd like to start holding regular public irc meetings -- "meet the
desktop team", if you want. The official form in which this happens in
Fedora is in a SIG, so we will form a "Desktop SIG" and invite
interested members of the Fedora community to work with us on making 
the Fedora desktop spin the best desktop in its class.

The first meeting is going to take place in the #fedora-meeting
irc channel on Freenode, Wednesday, 18:00-19:00 UTC (2pm-3pm EDT) 
(see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate#IRC)

Proposed agenda for the first meeting:
- Organizational questions 
- Goals and scope of the Desktop SIG 
- Concrete plans for the F8 desktop spin
- Longer-term plans

We have put our ideas for second agenda item 
up at http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Desktop

Hope to see you tomorrow,

Matthias

[Matej Cepl]

On 2007-08-15, 01:23 GMT, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> The first meeting is going to take place in the #fedora-meeting
> irc channel on Freenode, Wednesday, 18:00-19:00 UTC (2pm-3pm EDT) 
> (see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate#IRC)

Do you have to? It's 20:00-21:00 CEST -- do you want to eliminate 
Europeans from participation?

Matěj

[Christopher Aillon]

Matej Cepl wrote:
> On 2007-08-15, 01:23 GMT, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> > The first meeting is going to take place in the #fedora-meeting
> > irc channel on Freenode, Wednesday, 18:00-19:00 UTC (2pm-3pm EDT) 
> > (see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate#IRC)
>
> Do you have to? It's 20:00-21:00 CEST -- do you want to eliminate 
> Europeans from participation?

Sigh.  We don't do this and people complain.  We do this, and people 
complain still.

It's the only time some of us are free.  If you actually want us to show 
up to our own talk, then this is the time.

[Christopher Aillon]

Christopher Aillon wrote:
> Matej Cepl wrote:
> > On 2007-08-15, 01:23 GMT, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> > > The first meeting is going to take place in the #fedora-meeting
> > > irc channel on Freenode, Wednesday, 18:00-19:00 UTC (2pm-3pm EDT) 
> > > (see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate#IRC)
> >
> > Do you have to? It's 20:00-21:00 CEST -- do you want to eliminate 
> > Europeans from participation?
>
> Sigh.  We don't do this and people complain.  We do this, and people 
> complain still.
>
> It's the only time some of us are free.  If you actually want us to show 
> up to our own talk, then this is the time.

This sounded harsher than I really meant.  We can discuss other times 
for future showings during the meeting, but it is hard to make meetings 
work for all time zones in general.  This isn't the only Fedora meeting 
that is this late and there were other #fedora-meeting ones already 
scheduled before this one which prevented us from doing it earlier as 
well.  Let's see what we can do to improve this during the meet, perhaps.

[Matej Cepl]

["Followup-To:" header set to gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.desktop.]
On 2007-08-15, 17:39 GMT, Christopher Aillon wrote:
> This sounded harsher than I really meant.  We can discuss other 
> times for future showings during the meeting, but it is hard to 
> make meetings work for all time zones in general.  This isn't 
> the only Fedora meeting that is this late and there were other 
> #fedora-meeting ones already scheduled before this one which 
> prevented us from doing it earlier as well.  Let's see what we 
> can do to improve this during the meet, perhaps.

Sure, if I was just a volunteer (and not-married ;-)) I would 
probably prefer 20-21. Oh well, my bad. I just thought that the 
time of desktop team meetings (17:00 CEST, 11 EST) covers most of 
possible participants (I am really sorry for folks in India and 
Australia, and guys on the West Coast have to get up early -- but 
they do anyway).

Matej

[Christopher Blizzard]

Meeting notes are up now:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Desktop/Meeting-20070815

I also set up a Desktop "home page":

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Desktop

The idea being that we can keep a list of people, projects and updates
on the page.  Feel free to add your projects, goals and names to the
page!

--Chris

[Adam Jackson]

On Wed, 2007-08-15 at 16:49 -0400, Christopher Blizzard wrote:
> Meeting notes are up now:
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Desktop/Meeting-20070815
>
> I also set up a Desktop "home page":
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Desktop
>
> The idea being that we can keep a list of people, projects and updates
> on the page.  Feel free to add your projects, goals and names to the
> page!

I promised to update the bootchart review request, and I did.  Packages,
for those who want them:

http://ajax.fedorapeople.org/bootchart/

- ajax

[Rahul Sundaram]

Christopher Blizzard wrote:
> Meeting notes are up now:
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Desktop/Meeting-20070815

Can someone post the raw IRC logs too?

Rahul

[Kevin Kofler]

Matthias Clasen <mclasen <at> redhat.com> writes:
> We have put our ideas for second agenda item 
> up at http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Desktop

IMHO, this page could really use a s/Desktop/GNOME/g.

Kevin Kofler

[Rahul Sundaram]

Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Matthias Clasen <mclasen <at> redhat.com> writes:
> > We have put our ideas for second agenda item 
> > up at http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Desktop
>
> IMHO, this page could really use a s/Desktop/GNOME/g.

I would prefer the Desktop SIG takes care of more than just a single 
desktop environment and probably should include KDE folks too.

Rahul