Printing in FC3 is in considerable worse state than in FC1.
Eggcups is well named because it is as fragile as eggs... How does one cancel a print job. Right click cancel = application crash.
A new "feature" of my Epson stylus photo 1290 is not printing to the end of job.
Printer sharing is on but the printer remains invisible to my Mac and W XP Pro computers.
Where should I take these issues?
Cheers
Tony Grant
tony wrote:
Printing in FC3 is in considerable worse state than in FC1.
Eggcups is well named because it is as fragile as eggs... How does one cancel a print job. Right click cancel = application crash.
A new "feature" of my Epson stylus photo 1290 is not printing to the end of job.
Printer sharing is on but the printer remains invisible to my Mac and W XP Pro computers.
Where should I take these issues?
Cheers
Tony Grant
To share to the Mac with Linux, you may share it with CUPS and Mac (as long as it is OS X) should pick it up. As for Windows, you will have to share it as an SMB share, otherwise Windows will remain blind to it. To share it like that, you will need the samba packages and just configure it... I'd suggest gnomba or swat to properly configure the printer, you can then use system-config-samba to configure shares if you want.
Le vendredi 28 janvier 2005 à 04:03 -0600, Gain Paolo Mureddu a écrit :
Printer sharing is on but the printer remains invisible to my Mac and W XP Pro computers.
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To share to the Mac with Linux, you may share it with CUPS and Mac (as long as it is OS X) should pick it up.
Well it doesn't see the printer I'm afraid
As for Windows, you will have to share it as an SMB share, otherwise Windows will remain blind to it. To share it like that, you will need the samba packages and just configure it... I'd suggest gnomba or swat to properly configure the printer, you can then use system-config-samba to configure shares if you want.
printers are shared to everyone
I had to do a lot of hacking to get the samba share to work in FC1 but after it just worked. Do I have to jump through the same hoops for FC3? Which version of Fedora will have correct configuration for printer sharing to W machines? It seems to be quite a common use for FC machines.
Cheers
Tony
tony wrote:
Well it doesn't see the printer I'm afraid
printers are shared to everyone
I had to do a lot of hacking to get the samba share to work in FC1 but after it just worked. Do I have to jump through the same hoops for FC3? Which version of Fedora will have correct configuration for printer sharing to W machines? It seems to be quite a common use for FC machines.
Cheers
Tony
Now that is very good question... currently the system-config-samba program lacks a LOT of samba functionality. You have to use SWAT to properly configure samba on any situation. For the CUPS problem, how is your firewall set? You will need to open ports 631 (printer) and 515 (spooler) both TCP and UDP and you may need to manually add the printer in MacOSX
Le vendredi 28 janvier 2005 à 05:03 -0600, Gain Paolo Mureddu a écrit :
Which version of Fedora will have correct configuration for printer sharing to W machines? It seems to be quite a common use for FC machines.
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Now that is very good question... currently the system-config-samba program lacks a LOT of samba functionality. You have to use SWAT to properly configure samba on any situation.
OK thanks that was the answer I needed.
<dives into tool bag looking for hammer> =:-D
Cheers
Tony
fre, 28.01.2005 kl. 12.03 skrev Gain Paolo Mureddu:
tony wrote:
Well it doesn't see the printer I'm afraid
printers are shared to everyone
I had to do a lot of hacking to get the samba share to work in FC1 but after it just worked. Do I have to jump through the same hoops for FC3? Which version of Fedora will have correct configuration for printer sharing to W machines? It seems to be quite a common use for FC machines.
Cheers
Tony
Now that is very good question... currently the system-config-samba program lacks a LOT of samba functionality. You have to use SWAT to properly configure samba on any situation. For the CUPS problem, how is your firewall set? You will need to open ports 631 (printer) and 515 (spooler) both TCP and UDP and you may need to manually add the printer in MacOSX
OSX - i have seen somebody printing to a fc printer server (ok, it was running proprietary filters... LEXMARK laser printers.... GRR!) from OSX word, (the printer was picked up autmatically as long as it was able to resolve the DNS... But every single one of them was named "created by system-config-printer".... Oops!). And the 1 page with "hello, test!" was 20 pages of binary rabble....
Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote:
OSX - i have seen somebody printing to a fc printer server (ok, it was running proprietary filters... LEXMARK laser printers.... GRR!) from OSX word, (the printer was picked up autmatically as long as it was able to resolve the DNS... But every single one of them was named "created by system-config-printer".... Oops!). And the 1 page with "hello, test!" was 20 pages of binary rabble....
I've also seen MacOSX prin to both a FreeBSD print server running CUPS and a Linux (Red Hat 9) server running CUPS too... That was at my university. I think you would need to install some CUPS modules to OSX in order to successfully use it... I'll try to ask the IT who set that up at the university and see how did he got it running.
lør, 29.01.2005 kl. 00.20 skrev Gain Paolo Mureddu:
Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote:
OSX - i have seen somebody printing to a fc printer server (ok, it was running proprietary filters... LEXMARK laser printers.... GRR!) from OSX word, (the printer was picked up autmatically as long as it was able to resolve the DNS... But every single one of them was named "created by system-config-printer".... Oops!). And the 1 page with "hello, test!" was 20 pages of binary rabble....
I've also seen MacOSX prin to both a FreeBSD print server running CUPS and a Linux (Red Hat 9) server running CUPS too... That was at my university. I think you would need to install some CUPS modules to OSX in order to successfully use it... I'll try to ask the IT who set that up at the university and see how did he got it running.
Ie. the OSX guys either got to install some app onto their systems, or they must use samba?
Not my mac, just some friends of mine. But i *did* believe that ipp was a standards-based protocol, and cups was cups... So that mac and linux should work perfectly well together when it comes to printing.
BTW. it works perfectly from the FC3 boxes it is intended to serve.
But something that *is* a pain in the ass about cups auto-config is that it needs DNS. If it didn't it would be so extremely simple - just plug it in and print, if cups can't find the correct server at the address, just use ip address directly (v4 OR v6). Putting up a DNS server / maintaining a bunch of host files is a PITA. Especially if there is a DNS/DHCP server running windows that you have no power over, which can't look up the correct ip for the hostname of the sharing box.
Without this trouble, cups auto-config would be a dream...
Kyrre
On Fri, 2005-01-28 at 10:42 +0100, tony wrote:
Printing in FC3 is in considerable worse state than in FC1.
Eggcups is well named because it is as fragile as eggs... How does one cancel a print job. Right click cancel = application crash.
A new "feature" of my Epson stylus photo 1290 is not printing to the end of job.
Printer sharing is on but the printer remains invisible to my Mac and W XP Pro computers.
Where should I take these issues?
File eggcups bugs against desktop-printing. The Epson issue is probably a driver bug (try printing using different programs).
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