Summary Release blockers and password managers and repository additions discussed via ticket reviews.
Fedora 45 Blocker Status Crony timekeeping bugs confused Mutter frame scheduling. Blocker bug should be filed.
Game Mode Ticket Review Game Mode inclusion debated. Ticket closed pending actual performance data.
Adding OnePassword to Repositories OnePassword repository inclusion debated. Vote passed in favor.
Decisions Needs Further Discussion Filing a blocker bug for crony issue The group discussed filing a blocker bug for a crony issue causing timekeeping shifts and frame scheduling freezes in the system.
Aligned Closing the game mode ticket The participants agreed to close the game mode ticket and keep shipping game mode by default. Adding OnePassword to third-party repositories The working group voted in favor of adding OnePassword to the third-party repositories.
Next steps [Matthias Clasen] File Crony Blocker: Submit a blocker ticket for the timekeeping conflict issue identified between Crony and M. [Neal Gompa (Conan Kudo)] Fix 007 Launch: Update all desktop sessions to ensure the 007 daemon launches correctly. [Neal Gompa (Conan Kudo)] Submit 007 Issue: Draft and submit an upstream issue regarding integration difficulties for the 007 service. [The group] Test Gnome 51: Perform testing on the final Gnome 51 release once it becomes available. [The group] Review 007 Integration: Revisit the status of the 007 integration during the next meeting. [The group] Write Release Article: Review the draft Gnome release notes to identify and share interesting highlights for the magazine post. [Neal Gompa (Conan Kudo)] Document Podman 6: Compile details regarding Podman 6 changes and potential container issues in the tracking ticket. [Allan Day] Organize Tickets: Consolidate related meeting tickets to reduce the current backlog. [Allan Day] Close Game Mode: Summarize the discussion points in the ticket and proceed with closing it. [Neal Gompa (Conan Kudo)] Process OnePassword Request: Verify the technical viability of the OnePassword repository and respond to the approval ticket. [The group] Contact: Message Adrian on Matrix next week to monitor the status of the 007 and crony issues.
Details Fedora 45 Release Blocker Status: Allan Day checked the Fedora 45 release blocker list and noted no immediate blockers affecting the workstation team directly. Neal Gompa (Conan Kudo) stated that the installer cannot configure GNOME layouts in real time due to missing local-one components, secondary language support has a freeze exception, an IBUS crash update is pending, and a Podman bug lacks a current fix (00:00:38). Matthias Clasen and Neal Gompa (Conan Kudo) also highlighted an unresolved issue between Crony and Mutter, alongside a reboot and power-off failure in Workstation attributed to a Security-Enhanced Linux policy bug (00:04:20). Crony Timekeeping and Power Management Updates: Matthias Clasen explained a bug where Crony adjustments to Network Time Protocol timekeeping confuse timestamps used by Mutter for frame scheduling, sometimes causing Mutter to stop rendering frames entirely. Allan Day requested a blocker bug be filed for this issue, and Matthias Clasen agreed to track it down (00:05:40) (00:08:26). Additionally, Neal Gompa (Conan Kudo) reported that *they* landed a batch of power and thermal management fixes for Intel-based laptops into the repositories, noting that thermal and power daemon packages like thermal-daemon and LPMD had not received updates in three to four years because the former maintainer, Benjamin Berg, left Red Hat (00:07:09). 007 Desktop Session Integration and GNOME Keyring Retirement: Neal Gompa (Conan Kudo) explained that the Fedora 45 beta was released with a broken 007 password manager daemon because upstream dropped D-Bus activation between the 0.6 and 0.7 alpha versions (00:09:53) (00:14:32). Neal Gompa (Conan Kudo) committed to rolling through other desktop sessions this week to fix 007 launching, while stating *they* are deferring the KDE Wallet to 007 migration to the next cycle due to time constraints (00:11:46). Neal Gompa (Conan Kudo) noted that GNOME Keyring is expected to be retired within one or two cycles (by GNOME 51 or 52), making the 007 integration mandatory (00:13:36). Allan Day and Matthias Clasen suggested organizing testing for the 007 implementation once GNOME 51 final is released and Neal Gompa (Conan Kudo) finishes integrating other desktop sessions (00:16:26). Beta Website Issues and Fedora Magazine Article: Neal Gompa (Conan Kudo) reported that the beta download links were temporarily unavailable because someone forgot to flip the website and FTP servers live when publishing magazine announcements (00:18:18). Allan Day brought up the pending Fedora Magazine article for the release, noting that finding distinct Fedora-specific highlights outside of GNOME release notes is difficult, and suggested using artificial intelligence to generate a draft from the existing GNOME release notes. Neal Gompa (Conan Kudo) added that Podman 6 should be mentioned with a warning because it lacks an automatic migrator and will likely break existing containers and toolboxes upon upgrade, offering to drop details into the ticket (00:19:35) (00:23:00). Game Mode Ticket Review: Michael Catanzaro brought up a ticket questioning the inclusion of Game Mode, a service preloaded on Workstation and KDE that automatically prioritizes foreground video game processes (00:26:02). Neal Gompa (Conan Kudo) defended Game Mode, stating *they* believe it provides a measurable impact for resource-intensive AAA titles and integrates into the software stack (00:26:59). Matthias Clasen questioned whether Game Mode makes a significant difference nowadays and noted overlaps with power modes, while highlighting a broader lack of a coherent Linux strategy for power and resource management daemons (00:28:12). Allan Day concluded the discussion by offering to summarize these points, close the ticket, and remain open to reopening it if actual performance data is provided (00:30:08). Adding OnePassword to Third-Party Repositories: Allan Day introduced ticket 529 requesting the addition of OnePassword to the third-party repositories via an official RPM repository and Flatpak remote (00:31:13). Michael Catanzaro strongly opposed adding random proprietary software repositories, arguing that open source alternatives like KeePassXC, VaultWarden, and RBW are already available and that the team should reduce third-party repositories rather than expand them (00:35:50). Conversely, Neal Gompa (Conan Kudo) advocated for inclusion, arguing that OnePassword dominates enterprise and developer environments, and pointing out that the RPM repository provides the command line utility necessary for developer automation and workflow integration (00:34:36) (00:42:03). Allan Day conducted a vote, resulting in four votes in favor, and Neal Gompa (Conan Kudo) volunteered to respond to the ticket and check technical requirements with OnePassword (00:40:31) (00:46:29). Upcoming Meeting Schedule and Absences: Matthias Clasen announced that *they* will be on vacation next week, and Neal Gompa (Conan Kudo) stated *they* will be traveling to Boston for DevCon US and later to Toronto for XDC (00:47:38). The participants discussed tracking remaining Fedora 45 blockers, such as the 007 integration and Crony issue, with Allan Day suggesting reaching out to Adrian on Matrix for updates during the upcoming absences (00:48:47).
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