[Fedora-desktop-list] What is it with the new Subject prefix?

[Kevin Francis]

Why do we have this [Fedora-Desktop-List] tag on all emails?
it consumes space and is unneeded. I now have to devote loads of space 
to the subject field :/

As for the excuse that some need it to filter, that's not really a 
reason, as there are at least two other things they can filter on, and 
it's easy in clients such as Mozilla Thunderbird, Evolution or even 
procmail/mutt.

The ONLY client not able to do this is MS Outlook in my experience.

--
Kevin Francis
<http://denial.loose-screws.com/>

[Fedora-desktop-list] Artwork?

[Marky Goldstein]

I wonder if you need design... We can deliver design, in any fashion.
I was also wondering why there is no design (database) on the
fedora site... I don't see any nice pictures in the artwork area ;->

Greets,
Marky


Kevin Francis wrote:

>  Why do we have this [Fedora-Desktop-List] tag on all emails?
>  it consumes space and is unneeded. I now have to devote loads of space 
>  to the subject field :/
>
>  As for the excuse that some need it to filter, that's not really a 
>  reason, as there are at least two other things they can filter on, and 
>  it's easy in clients such as Mozilla Thunderbird, Evolution or even 
>  procmail/mutt.
>
>  The ONLY client not able to do this is MS Outlook in my experience.
>
>  -- 
>  Kevin Francis
>  <http://denial.loose-screws.com/>
>
>
>  -- 
>  Fedora-desktop-list mailing list
>  Fedora-desktop-list(a)redhat.com
>  http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list

[Alexander Larsson]

On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 11:54, Kevin Francis wrote:
>  Why do we have this [Fedora-Desktop-List] tag on all emails?
>  it consumes space and is unneeded. I now have to devote loads of space 
>  to the subject field :/
>  
>  As for the excuse that some need it to filter, that's not really a 
>  reason, as there are at least two other things they can filter on, and 
>  it's easy in clients such as Mozilla Thunderbird, Evolution or even 
>  procmail/mutt.
>  
>  The ONLY client not able to do this is MS Outlook in my experience. 
Yeah, its pretty useless, and something no other redhat lists use.

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 Alexander Larsson                                            Red Hat, Inc 
                   alexl(a)redhat.com    alla(a)lysator.liu.se 
He's a genetically engineered drug-addicted cat burglar from a doomed world. 
She's a mentally unstable impetuous nun in the wrong place at the wrong time. 
They fight crime!

[Kevin Francis]

To illustrate that I am not just kicking a fuss for nothing please see
<http://denial.loose-screws.com/screenshots/Screenshot-Evolution.png>;.
You'll note that I can't read what the `Changing default ...' is :)

And please note that I run a rather high resolution to begin with. What
about those @ 800*600 or 1024*768?

On Wed, 2003-11-26 at 01:50, Alexander Larsson wrote:
>  On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 11:54, Kevin Francis wrote:
>  > Why do we have this [Fedora-Desktop-List] tag on all emails?
>  > it consumes space and is unneeded. I now have to devote loads of space 
>  > to the subject field :/
>  > 
>  > As for the excuse that some need it to filter, that's not really a 
>  > reason, as there are at least two other things they can filter on, and 
>  > it's easy in clients such as Mozilla Thunderbird, Evolution or even 
>  > procmail/mutt.
>  > 
>  > The ONLY client not able to do this is MS Outlook in my experience.
>  
>  Yeah, its pretty useless, and something no other redhat lists use.
>  
>  =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>   Alexander Larsson                                            Red Hat, Inc 
>                     alexl(a)redhat.com    alla(a)lysator.liu.se 
>  He's a genetically engineered drug-addicted cat burglar from a doomed world. 
>  She's a mentally unstable impetuous nun in the wrong place at the wrong time. 
>  They fight crime! 
>  
>  
>  --
>  Fedora-desktop-list mailing list
>  Fedora-desktop-list(a)redhat.com
>  http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list 
-- 
Kevin G Francis
<http://denial.loose-screws.com/>

What is it with the new Subject prefix?

[Tom Diehl]

On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Kevin Francis wrote:

>  To illustrate that I am not just kicking a fuss for nothing please
> see
>  <http://denial.loose-screws.com/screenshots/Screenshot-Evolution.png>;.
>  You'll note that I can't read what the `Changing default ...' is :)
>  
>  And please note that I run a rather high resolution to begin with. What
>  about those @ 800*600 or 1024*768?
>  
>  On Wed, 2003-11-26 at 01:50, Alexander Larsson wrote:
>  > On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 11:54, Kevin Francis wrote:
>  > > Why do we have this [Fedora-Desktop-List] tag on all emails? 
Because someone chose the stupid mailman defaults. IMHO it should be turned
off like all of the other Red Hat lists. Failing that you can use a creative
procmail recipie to automagically filter the thing out. Another possibly more
effective solution would be to send a message to the list maintainer ask ask
nicely to turn it off. Given that ALL of the other Red Hat lists have it off
your changes of success are high. It was most likely an oversite.

...........Tom

What is it with the new Subject prefix?

[Owen Taylor]

On Wed, 2003-11-26 at 01:37, Tom Diehl wrote:
>  On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Kevin Francis wrote:
>  
>  > To illustrate that I am not just kicking a fuss for nothing please see
>  > <http://denial.loose-screws.com/screenshots/Screenshot-Evolution.png>;.
>  > You'll note that I can't read what the `Changing default ...' is :)
>  > 
>  > And please note that I run a rather high resolution to begin with. What
>  > about those @ 800*600 or 1024*768?
>  > 
>  > On Wed, 2003-11-26 at 01:50, Alexander Larsson wrote:
>  > > On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 11:54, Kevin Francis wrote:
>  > > > Why do we have this [Fedora-Desktop-List] tag on all emails?
>  
>  Because someone chose the stupid mailman defaults. IMHO it should be turned
>  off like all of the other Red Hat lists. Failing that you can use a creative
>  procmail recipie to automagically filter the thing out. Another possibly more
>  effective solution would be to send a message to the list maintainer ask ask
>  nicely to turn it off. Given that ALL of the other Red Hat lists have it off
>  your changes of success are high. It was most likely an oversite. 
Yeah, it was just an oversight. I pinged people and (as you'll see from
the Subject: on your mail) and we got it fixed yesterday.

Regards,
						Owen