Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 12:17:48 -0700 From: Michael Knepher mknepher@bluethingy.com Subject: Re: Fedora-desktop-list Digest, Vol 6, Issue 15 To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop fedora-desktop-list@redhat.com Message-ID: 1092683869.3772.3.camel@lionel-hutz.darnell.group Content-Type: text/plain
On Mon, 2004-08-16 at 19:21 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote:
Cups is still the backend, but it's being integrated with dbus to provide better usability. A screenshot of the new print dialog is attached. Very close to KDE's.
Hmm... when will this reach yum? Or will it be part of fc3 in october? Couldn't see the screenshot - it was scrubbed by the list...
Try http://www.bluethingy.com/linux/Print_Dialog.png
It's in rawhide, for FC3 release.
Looks nice. Will this be in both moz and epiphany? You say it is in Rawhide, can you please give me an URL for the RPM, so that I may download it? If all works well, then I am considering to install this on all the FC2 machines at the school i administer, and switch to epiphany as default browser.
Kyrre Ness Sjøbæk
On Tue, 2004-08-17 at 19:35 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote:
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 12:17:48 -0700 From: Michael Knepher mknepher@bluethingy.com Subject: Re: Fedora-desktop-list Digest, Vol 6, Issue 15 To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop fedora-desktop-list@redhat.com Message-ID: 1092683869.3772.3.camel@lionel-hutz.darnell.group Content-Type: text/plain
On Mon, 2004-08-16 at 19:21 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote:
Cups is still the backend, but it's being integrated with dbus to provide better usability. A screenshot of the new print dialog is attached. Very close to KDE's.
Hmm... when will this reach yum? Or will it be part of fc3 in october? Couldn't see the screenshot - it was scrubbed by the list...
Try http://www.bluethingy.com/linux/Print_Dialog.png
It's in rawhide, for FC3 release.
Looks nice. Will this be in both moz and epiphany? You say it is in Rawhide, can you please give me an URL for the RPM, so that I may download it? If all works well, then I am considering to install this on all the FC2 machines at the school i administer, and switch to epiphany as default browser.
Kyrre Ness Sjøbæk
Epiphany and mozilla don't yet use it. Hopefully they'll be able to hack it in for FC3 (I can't actually print from the rawhide epiphany right now - I'd better go poke bugzilla and see if a bug's been filed). I don't know how many packages are required for the new printing system (I'm running a full rawhide system), but it would probably involve a lot of GNOME-2.7.x and the hal/dbus stuff, which are pretty quick-moving targets right now in rawhide. For the most part, things seem fairly stable, but I don't know if it's worth just trying to grab that. If you're able to run a test system, with all the brokenness that may entail, I'd recommend installing fc3t1 on a system and grab all the latest updates from rawhide using yum.
Actually, what would be really nice would be a command-line interface to this similar to what QTCups used to be. It would then allow for *any* non-gnome app to utilize the printing infrastructure in a sane way.
Cheers, Ken
On Tue, 2004-08-17 at 11:31, Michael Knepher wrote:
On Tue, 2004-08-17 at 19:35 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote:
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 12:17:48 -0700 From: Michael Knepher mknepher@bluethingy.com Subject: Re: Fedora-desktop-list Digest, Vol 6, Issue 15 To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop fedora-desktop-list@redhat.com Message-ID: 1092683869.3772.3.camel@lionel-hutz.darnell.group Content-Type: text/plain
On Mon, 2004-08-16 at 19:21 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote:
Cups is still the backend, but it's being integrated with dbus to provide better usability. A screenshot of the new print dialog is attached. Very close to KDE's.
Hmm... when will this reach yum? Or will it be part of fc3 in october? Couldn't see the screenshot - it was scrubbed by the list...
Try http://www.bluethingy.com/linux/Print_Dialog.png
It's in rawhide, for FC3 release.
Looks nice. Will this be in both moz and epiphany? You say it is in Rawhide, can you please give me an URL for the RPM, so that I may download it? If all works well, then I am considering to install this on all the FC2 machines at the school i administer, and switch to epiphany as default browser.
Kyrre Ness Sjøbæk
Epiphany and mozilla don't yet use it. Hopefully they'll be able to hack it in for FC3 (I can't actually print from the rawhide epiphany right now - I'd better go poke bugzilla and see if a bug's been filed). I don't know how many packages are required for the new printing system (I'm running a full rawhide system), but it would probably involve a lot of GNOME-2.7.x and the hal/dbus stuff, which are pretty quick-moving targets right now in rawhide. For the most part, things seem fairly stable, but I don't know if it's worth just trying to grab that. If you're able to run a test system, with all the brokenness that may entail, I'd recommend installing fc3t1 on a system and grab all the latest updates from rawhide using yum.
On Wed, 2004-08-18 at 12:48 -0700, Ken Crandall wrote:
Actually, what would be really nice would be a command-line interface to this similar to what QTCups used to be. It would then allow for *any* non-gnome app to utilize the printing infrastructure in a sane way.
Cheers, Ken
Is XPrint supposed to be a solution for this? I've only skimmed briefly over the info about the new xorg release at freedesktop.org, so I'm not sure if it would allow similar functionality.
On Fri, 2004-08-20 at 12:25, Michael Knepher wrote:
Is XPrint supposed to be a solution for this? I've only skimmed briefly over the info about the new xorg release at freedesktop.org, so I'm not sure if it would allow similar functionality.
No, XPrint is an X server feature that lets you draw to the printer using the same operations used to draw to the screen. Most of the Linux desktop crowd thinks it's fundamentally a broken design, because the drawing operations aren't vector-based and because it's in the X server instead of being a library. So the alternative is something like Cairo (in future) or right now the printing stuff in Qt and gnome-print. All these things have to do with generating postscript; an orthogonal question is how you get the postscript to the printer, which is most simply done by feeding it to lpr, but there are more complex things people also want to do.
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