RE: f4l

[Hristo Petkov]

Hi Guys,
I am still under f11 and I know that you are talking about f13 and f14 already, but I have
problems with the flash for linux on my desktop (it is designed for f7 and obviously does
not work properly under f11).
Can you convince somehow Adobe to go open-source and to make some professional flash
editor. Obviously the flash editor is not exactly do-it-yourself business as most of the
other things under linux are.

Regards,
Christo Petkov

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[Matthew Miller]

On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 12:02:12PM -0800, Hristo Petkov wrote:
>  Can you convince somehow Adobe to go open-source and to make some
>  professional flash editor. Obviously the flash editor is not exactly
>  do-it-yourself business as most of the other things under linux are. 
If only it were so easy!

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Cyberinfrastructure Labs / Instructional & Research Computing
Computing & Information Technology 
Harvard School of Engineering & Applied Sciences

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[Torstein Adolf Winterseth]

2010/1/7 Hristo Petkov <vaeood(a)yahoo.com&gt;
>  Hi Guys,
>  I am still under f11 and I know that you are talking about f13 and f14 already, but I
> have problems with the flash for linux on my desktop (it is designed for f7 and obviously
> does not work properly under f11).
>  Can you convince somehow Adobe to go open-source and to make some professional flash
> editor. Obviously the flash editor is not exactly do-it-yourself business as most of the
> other things under linux are.
>
>  Regards,
>  Christo Petkov
>  
It would be awesome, however Adobe's business model is to sell their
proprietary Flash Editor for tonnes of money.

For their flash plugin, you should check out Gnash. Gnash is a
reverse-engineered flash player that works pretty good on older flash
stuff. They are still catching up with Adobe's player and they
probably will continue catching up for a while.

Gnash's site: http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
Gnash's dev site: http://www.gnashdev.org/
Place to go to donate: http://openmedianow.org/

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Torstein Adolf Winterseth

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[Tareq Al Jurf]

So if gnash is up to date, it will be able to run flash media perfectly?

2010/1/8 Torstein Adolf Winterseth <torswin(a)gmail.com&gt;

>  2010/1/7 Hristo Petkov <vaeood(a)yahoo.com&gt;
>  >
>  > Hi Guys,
>  > I am still under f11 and I know that you are talking about f13 and f14
>  already, but I have problems with the flash for linux on my desktop (it is
>  designed for f7 and obviously does not work properly under f11).
>  > Can you convince somehow Adobe to go open-source and to make some
>  professional flash editor. Obviously the flash editor is not exactly
>  do-it-yourself business as most of the other things under linux are.
>  >
>  > Regards,
>  > Christo Petkov
>  >
>  It would be awesome, however Adobe's business model is to sell their
>  proprietary Flash Editor for tonnes of money.
>
>  For their flash plugin, you should check out Gnash. Gnash is a
>  reverse-engineered flash player that works pretty good on older flash
>  stuff. They are still catching up with Adobe's player and they
>  probably will continue catching up for a while.
>
>  Gnash's site: http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
>  Gnash's dev site: http://www.gnashdev.org/
>  Place to go to donate: http://openmedianow.org/
>
>  --
>  Mvh / Kind regards
>  Torstein Adolf Winterseth
>
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>  


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Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
taljurf(a)fedoraproject.org

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[Torstein Adolf Winterseth]

2010/1/8 Tareq Al Jurf <taljurf(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:
>  So if gnash is up to date, it will be able to run flash media
> perfectly?
>  
Today's Gnash will not run SWF version 10 but will run SWF9 and below.
Sadly the newest YouTube uses SWF 10, so Gnash will just show a black
window. Remember to install Gstreamer's ffmpeg codecs and ffmpeg. That
is what Gnash uses to decode the H.264 encoded video which is default
in creating Flash videos.

I am personally really looking forward to SWF 10 support in Gnash, and
I hope Adobe don't do much with Flash as I'd really like Gnash to
catch up and replace the evil Flash Plugin for my usage (mostly
YouTube and random other *cough* sites).

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Mvh / Kind regards
Torstein Adolf Winterseth

f4l

[Tareq Al Jurf]

So if Gnash catches up with the newest version of flash, we can include in
fedora as default, can't we?

2010/1/8 Torstein Adolf Winterseth <torswin(a)gmail.com&gt;

>  2010/1/8 Tareq Al Jurf <taljurf(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:
>  > So if gnash is up to date, it will be able to run flash media perfectly?
>  >
>  Today's Gnash will not run SWF version 10 but will run SWF9 and below.
>  Sadly the newest YouTube uses SWF 10, so Gnash will just show a black
>  window. Remember to install Gstreamer's ffmpeg codecs and ffmpeg. That
>  is what Gnash uses to decode the H.264 encoded video which is default
>  in creating Flash videos.
>
>  I am personally really looking forward to SWF 10 support in Gnash, and
>  I hope Adobe don't do much with Flash as I'd really like Gnash to
>  catch up and replace the evil Flash Plugin for my usage (mostly
>  YouTube and random other *cough* sites).
>
>  --
>  Mvh / Kind regards
>  Torstein Adolf Winterseth
>
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>  


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Tareq Al Jurf
Fedora Ambassador
Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
taljurf(a)fedoraproject.org

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[Torstein Adolf Winterseth]

2010/1/8 Tareq Al Jurf <taljurf(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;:
>  So if Gnash catches up with the newest version of flash, we can
> include in
>  fedora as default, can't we?
>  
I hope so. Sadly Fedora can't include ffmpeg codecs as default or in
their repositories due to software patent laws in certain countries so
YouTube would be inaccessible for everyday users who haven't installed
those codecs from places such as RPMfusion.

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Torstein Adolf Winterseth