I upgraded to Fedora 21 GA/final.
With the beta/RC I used the Gnome/classical desktop. I just wanted to login once to the new Gnome desktop to see if it had changed as compared to the beta/RC. After doing so I don't have the option to use the classical Gnome desktop anymore.
Is this intentional? If so I hope that an xfce build will be available soon. I have no interest in anything else in the Desktop interface than what provides me quick acces to the programs I have installed (and grouped by categories). The new Gnome desktop does not and my installed programs are spread over 5½ pages/screens here.
But maybe what was the intention was to disable the Wayland option (since it did not work) and the classical Gnome interface was also disabled in the process and by mistake?
On 12/09/2014 03:02 PM, Peter Laursen wrote:
The new Gnome desktop does not and my installed programs are spread over 5½ pages/screens here.
What's wrong with typing your program name to find/start it?
What's wrong with adding your most-used programs as favorites?
(I do not desire to start a DE debate with this e-mail, so please only answer these questions.)
Why should I answer your questions, when you don't answer mine?
But ayway: because that is not how I want to work with my computer. The desktop interface is competely irrelevant to me. I just want to open programs. I want a menu with programs ordered by categories. Other people can do as they want. Personal preferences are not subject to discussion. Besides I sometimes forget the program names. But if a category has listed 10-20 programs, I will find fast and easy (in seconds - not minutes) what I am looking for. . I asked if this was an *intentional move* with the GA release or a mistake. If it was intentional, I cannot use Fedora. It simply wastes too much time for me. Unless an xfce, lxde, cinnamon etc. desktop will be available soon.
-- Peter
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:13 PM, Michael Cronenworth mike@cchtml.com wrote:
On 12/09/2014 03:02 PM, Peter Laursen wrote:
The new Gnome desktop does not and my installed programs are spread over 5½ pages/screens here.
What's wrong with typing your program name to find/start it?
What's wrong with adding your most-used programs as favorites?
(I do not desire to start a DE debate with this e-mail, so please only answer these questions.) -- desktop mailing list desktop@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 10:42:36PM +0100, Peter Laursen wrote:
But ayway: because that is not how I want to work with my computer. The desktop interface is competely irrelevant to me. I just want to open programs. I want a menu with programs ordered by categories. Other people can do as they want. Personal preferences are not subject to discussion. Besides I sometimes forget the program names. But if a category has listed 10-20 programs, I will find fast and easy (in seconds - not minutes) what I am looking for.
Just as an aside, the search works on descriptions too, so searching for the category or a descriptive word will also work.
Alternately, if this is your main gripe with Gnome 3, enable the Applications Menu extension. Install gnome-shell-extension-apps-menu if you don't have it, run tweak tool, turn it on. Or go to https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/6/applications-menu/, accept the permissions, and hit the switch to turn it on, which will download it into your home directory.
I asked if this was an *intentional move* with the GA release or a mistake. If it was intentional, I cannot use Fedora. It simply wastes too much time for me. Unless an xfce, lxde, cinnamon etc. desktop will be available soon.
I think it's neither an intentional move *nor* a mistake. (Why assume either, really?) Something else is wrong. It shows up on my freshly-installed system just fine. Do you have gnome-classic-session installed? If not, `sudo dnf install gnome-classic-session`.
Also, the other desktops are available *now*. Something is up with the spins website (when I looked in, it was being worked on), but you can download the livecds directly at https://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/21/Live/x86_64/
Or just install the package groups.
I had it installed and used it with the beta/RC for the last 2 weeks ,but it disappeared after upgrade to GA/final and after openng the new Gnome interface once. If I choose the 'classic' option from the login screen then the system just goes back to the login screen. And next time there is no ('gearwheel') selector.
-- Peter
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:55 PM, Matthew Miller mattdm@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 10:42:36PM +0100, Peter Laursen wrote:
But ayway: because that is not how I want to work with my computer. The desktop interface is competely irrelevant to me. I just want to open programs. I want a menu with programs ordered by categories. Other
people
can do as they want. Personal preferences are not subject to discussion. Besides I sometimes forget the program names. But if a
category
has listed 10-20 programs, I will find fast and easy (in seconds - not minutes) what I am looking for.
Just as an aside, the search works on descriptions too, so searching for the category or a descriptive word will also work.
Alternately, if this is your main gripe with Gnome 3, enable the Applications Menu extension. Install gnome-shell-extension-apps-menu if you don't have it, run tweak tool, turn it on. Or go to https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/6/applications-menu/, accept the permissions, and hit the switch to turn it on, which will download it into your home directory.
I asked if this was an *intentional move* with the GA release or a mistake. If it was intentional, I cannot use Fedora. It simply wastes
too
much time for me. Unless an xfce, lxde, cinnamon etc. desktop will be available soon.
I think it's neither an intentional move *nor* a mistake. (Why assume either, really?) Something else is wrong. It shows up on my freshly-installed system just fine. Do you have gnome-classic-session installed? If not, `sudo dnf install gnome-classic-session`.
Also, the other desktops are available *now*. Something is up with the spins website (when I looked in, it was being worked on), but you can download the livecds directly at < https://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/21/Live/x86_64/
Or just install the package groups.
-- Matthew Miller mattdm@fedoraproject.org Fedora Project Leader -- desktop mailing list desktop@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop
Hmmm .after a reboot, I can login with classical interface again. No idea what happened.
But sorry for the noise!
-- Peter
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 11:05 PM, Peter Laursen jazcyk@gmail.com wrote:
I had it installed and used it with the beta/RC for the last 2 weeks ,but it disappeared after upgrade to GA/final and after openng the new Gnome interface once. If I choose the 'classic' option from the login screen then the system just goes back to the login screen. And next time there is no ('gearwheel') selector.
-- Peter
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:55 PM, Matthew Miller mattdm@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 10:42:36PM +0100, Peter Laursen wrote:
But ayway: because that is not how I want to work with my computer. The desktop interface is competely irrelevant to me. I just want to open programs. I want a menu with programs ordered by categories. Other
people
can do as they want. Personal preferences are not subject to discussion. Besides I sometimes forget the program names. But if a
category
has listed 10-20 programs, I will find fast and easy (in seconds - not minutes) what I am looking for.
Just as an aside, the search works on descriptions too, so searching for the category or a descriptive word will also work.
Alternately, if this is your main gripe with Gnome 3, enable the Applications Menu extension. Install gnome-shell-extension-apps-menu if you don't have it, run tweak tool, turn it on. Or go to https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/6/applications-menu/, accept the permissions, and hit the switch to turn it on, which will download it into your home directory.
I asked if this was an *intentional move* with the GA release or a mistake. If it was intentional, I cannot use Fedora. It simply wastes
too
much time for me. Unless an xfce, lxde, cinnamon etc. desktop will be available soon.
I think it's neither an intentional move *nor* a mistake. (Why assume either, really?) Something else is wrong. It shows up on my freshly-installed system just fine. Do you have gnome-classic-session installed? If not, `sudo dnf install gnome-classic-session`.
Also, the other desktops are available *now*. Something is up with the spins website (when I looked in, it was being worked on), but you can download the livecds directly at < https://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/21/Live/x86_64/
Or just install the package groups.
-- Matthew Miller mattdm@fedoraproject.org Fedora Project Leader -- desktop mailing list desktop@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop
-- Hilsen / Regards
Peter Laursen
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Peter Laursen jazcyk@gmail.com wrote:
I upgraded to Fedora 21 GA/final.
With the beta/RC I used the Gnome/classical desktop. I just wanted to login once to the new Gnome desktop to see if it had changed as compared to the beta/RC. After doing so I don't have the option to use the classical Gnome desktop anymore.
Is this intentional? If so I hope that an xfce build will be available soon. I have no interest in anything else in the Desktop interface than what provides me quick acces to the programs I have installed (and grouped by categories). The new Gnome desktop does not and my installed programs are spread over 5½ pages/screens here.
But maybe what was the intention was to disable the Wayland option (since it did not work) and the classical Gnome interface was also disabled in the process and by mistake?
No it is supposed to be there ... do you have the classic extension installed?
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