Better desktop?

[Rahul Sundaram]

Hi

Someone forwarded me this. Looks interesting.

http://chabada.sk/better-desktop/

Rahul

[Leo]

Rahul Sundaram  writes:
> Hi
>
> Someone forwarded me this. Looks interesting.
>
> http://chabada.sk/better-desktop/
>
> Rahul

It's a very interesting article. I agree with most of the
suggestions. Many of them seems quite easy to make it into the next
release of gnome.

By the way, it seems more appropriate to send this to fedora-devel
list.

Regards,
Leon

[Rahul Sundaram]

On Tue, 2006-03-28 at 17:40 +0100, Leon wrote:
> Rahul Sundaram  writes:
> > Hi
> >
> > Someone forwarded me this. Looks interesting.
> >
> > http://chabada.sk/better-desktop/
> >
> > Rahul
>
> It's a very interesting article. I agree with most of the
> suggestions. Many of them seems quite easy to make it into the next
> release of gnome.
>
> By the way, it seems more appropriate to send this to fedora-devel
> list.

http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list

"Fedora-desktop-list -- Discussions about development for the Fedora
desktop"

Why is it more appropriate for fedora-devel?

Rahul

[Leo]

Rahul Sundaram  writes:
> On Tue, 2006-03-28 at 17:40 +0100, Leon wrote:
> > Rahul Sundaram  writes:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > Someone forwarded me this. Looks interesting.
> > >
> > > http://chabada.sk/better-desktop/
> > >
> > > Rahul
> >
> > It's a very interesting article. I agree with most of the
> > suggestions. Many of them seems quite easy to make it into the next
> > release of gnome.
> >
> > By the way, it seems more appropriate to send this to fedora-devel
> > list.
>
> http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list
>
> "Fedora-desktop-list -- Discussions about development for the Fedora
> desktop"
>
> Why is it more appropriate for fedora-devel?
>
> Rahul

Sorry, Rahul.

I thought this list is mainly for artwork. I have checked the
description:

,----
| Discussions about desktop issues such as user interfaces, artwork, and
| usability in the Fedora project 
`----

Regards,
Leon

[Thomas Canniot]

Le mardi 28 mars 2006 à 17:40 +0100, Leon a écrit :
> Rahul Sundaram  writes:
> > Hi
> >
> > Someone forwarded me this. Looks interesting.
> >
> > http://chabada.sk/better-desktop/
> >
> > Rahul
>
> It's a very interesting article. I agree with most of the
> suggestions. Many of them seems quite easy to make it into the next
> release of gnome.

I don't know if you noticed, but most of the screenshots that are in the
article looks like the next ubuntu : 
http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/flight5

I don't know if these improvements are part of the next release, i can
ask people to know it.

Many people working on ubuntu works on GNOME as well. Maybe some of
these improvements will be included in the next GNOME release.

Thomas Canniot

[Leo]

Thomas Canniot  writes:
> Le mardi 28 mars 2006 à 17:40 +0100, Leon a écrit :
> > Rahul Sundaram  writes:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > Someone forwarded me this. Looks interesting.
> > >
> > > http://chabada.sk/better-desktop/
> > >
> > > Rahul
> >
> > It's a very interesting article. I agree with most of the
> > suggestions. Many of them seems quite easy to make it into the next
> > release of gnome.
>
> I don't know if you noticed, but most of the screenshots that are in the
> article looks like the next ubuntu : 
> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/flight5
>
> I don't know if these improvements are part of the next release, i can
> ask people to know it.
>
> Many people working on ubuntu works on GNOME as well. Maybe some of
> these improvements will be included in the next GNOME release.
>
> Thomas Canniot

I agree that the screenshot might be based on Ubuntu. But the next
release of ubuntu will ship gnome 2.14 too. It's good to know if
Ubuntu has tweaked gnome to do so.

[Kyrre Ness Sjobak]

tir, 28.03.2006 kl. 17.30 skrev Rahul Sundaram:
> Hi
>
> Someone forwarded me this. Looks interesting.
>
> http://chabada.sk/better-desktop/
>
> Rahul

Just a few questions about the article:

1. How is "Notes" in Jpeg images stored? EXIF - so that i can open an
image 10-15 years from now and still read the note no problem? Or some
program-specific format?

2.Progress of downloads etc. Something has annoyed me a long time about
gnome and downloading - why doesn't it tell me how quick its downloading
(ie. kb/s)? Its fine that it tells me "how much time remaining" - but i
want to know the speed - even if it is a (triangle) Advanced...

Pause/resume in Firefox/gnome would also be just great.

Should i just file a couple of RFE's?

3. Way out, i know it, but yes - usb memstick auth/homedir could be
usefull, esp. in low-infrastructure settings. Think about it, a primary
scool or something like that. You hand out USB keys to the pupils, which
are preformatted with a "homedir" and a password (hell, it could even be
encrypted!).

Then its just:
    a) Find a free machine. (that is configured to accept usb-auth
    	with proper parameters)
    b) Plug in usb keystick
    c) Gdm recognizes it. Ask the user to enter password (if that is
    	wanted/required - sometimes you migth possibly want to
    	skip the password alltogether)
    d)Log in. Do what you want. Log out. Pull memstick out. Leave.

Of cource, there should be some mechanism to be able to have GDM only
accept memsticks that are signed by the rigth authority etc. And make a
nice gui to format and create a lot of those, intended for know-nothing
sysadmins.

This could probably be usefull for OLPC as well. Maybe the little laptop
migth even be able to function as such a memory unit, allowing it to be
plugged into a "bigger" computer (possibly just an ordinary stationary
machine with a CRT monitor etc. and some special software?)

--- Kyrre

[Rahul Sundaram]

On Tue, 2006-03-28 at 23:26 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote:
> tir, 28.03.2006 kl. 17.30 skrev Rahul Sundaram:
> > Hi
> >
> > Someone forwarded me this. Looks interesting.
> >
> > http://chabada.sk/better-desktop/
> >
> > Rahul
>
> Just a few questions about the article:
> How is "Notes" in Jpeg images stored? EXIF - so that i can open an
>
> image 10-15 years from now and still read the note no problem? Or some
> program-specific format?
>
> 2.Progress of downloads etc. Something has annoyed me a long time about
> gnome and downloading - why doesn't it tell me how quick its downloading
> (ie. kb/s)? Its fine that it tells me "how much time remaining" - but i
> want to know the speed - even if it is a (triangle) Advanced...
>
> Pause/resume in Firefox/gnome would also be just great.
>
> Should i just file a couple of RFE's?

Ya. you should do that.
> Way out, i know it, but yes - usb memstick auth/homedir could be
>
> usefull, esp. in low-infrastructure settings. Think about it, a primary
> scool or something like that. You hand out USB keys to the pupils, which
> are preformatted with a "homedir" and a password (hell, it could even be
> encrypted!).
>
> Then its just:
>    a) Find a free machine. (that is configured to accept usb-auth
>    	with proper parameters)
>    b) Plug in usb keystick
>    c) Gdm recognizes it. Ask the user to enter password (if that is
>    	wanted/required - sometimes you migth possibly want to
>    	skip the password alltogether)
>    d)Log in. Do what you want. Log out. Pull memstick out. Leave.
>
> Of cource, there should be some mechanism to be able to have GDM only
> accept memsticks that are signed by the rigth authority etc. And make a
> nice gui to format and create a lot of those, intended for know-nothing
> sysadmins.
>
> This could probably be usefull for OLPC as well. Maybe the little laptop
> migth even be able to function as such a memory unit, allowing it to be
> plugged into a "bigger" computer (possibly just an ordinary stationary
> machine with a CRT monitor etc. and some special software?)

If this is useful for OLPC, you might want to post to
https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/olpc-software. We have ongoing
active discussions about such issues.

Rahul

[Kyrre Ness Sjobak]

ons, 29.03.2006 kl. 01.43 skrev Rahul Sundaram:
> On Tue, 2006-03-28 at 23:26 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote:
> > tir, 28.03.2006 kl. 17.30 skrev Rahul Sundaram:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > Someone forwarded me this. Looks interesting.
> > >
> > > http://chabada.sk/better-desktop/
> > >
> > > Rahul
> >
> > Just a few questions about the article:
> > How is "Notes" in Jpeg images stored? EXIF - so that i can open an
> >
> > image 10-15 years from now and still read the note no problem? Or some
> > program-specific format?
> >
> > 2.Progress of downloads etc. Something has annoyed me a long time about
> > gnome and downloading - why doesn't it tell me how quick its downloading
> > (ie. kb/s)? Its fine that it tells me "how much time remaining" - but i
> > want to know the speed - even if it is a (triangle) Advanced...
> >
> > Pause/resume in Firefox/gnome would also be just great.
> >
> > Should i just file a couple of RFE's?
>
> Ya. you should do that.
> > Way out, i know it, but yes - usb memstick auth/homedir could be
> >
> > usefull, esp. in low-infrastructure settings. Think about it, a primary
> > scool or something like that. You hand out USB keys to the pupils, which
> > are preformatted with a "homedir" and a password (hell, it could even be
> > encrypted!).
> >
> > Then its just:
> >    a) Find a free machine. (that is configured to accept usb-auth
> >    	with proper parameters)
> >    b) Plug in usb keystick
> >    c) Gdm recognizes it. Ask the user to enter password (if that is
> >    	wanted/required - sometimes you migth possibly want to
> >    	skip the password alltogether)
> >    d)Log in. Do what you want. Log out. Pull memstick out. Leave.
> >
> > Of cource, there should be some mechanism to be able to have GDM only
> > accept memsticks that are signed by the rigth authority etc. And make a
> > nice gui to format and create a lot of those, intended for know-nothing
> > sysadmins.
> >
> > This could probably be usefull for OLPC as well. Maybe the little laptop
> > migth even be able to function as such a memory unit, allowing it to be
> > plugged into a "bigger" computer (possibly just an ordinary stationary
> > machine with a CRT monitor etc. and some special software?)
>
> If this is useful for OLPC, you might want to post to
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/olpc-software. We have ongoing
> active discussions about such issues.
>
> Rahul

And one more thing, thats *extremely* annoying. I was supposed to add it
to the mail, but i forgot, and it did annoy me:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133658

Firefox insists on formatting every printout in Letter format, ignoring
every setting. It can't even remember it from printout one printout to
the next. Thats an old one - and extremely annoying.

--- Kyrre

[Steffen Kluge]

On Wed, 2006-03-29 at 09:06 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote:
> Firefox insists on formatting every printout in Letter format, ignoring
> every setting. It can't even remember it from printout one printout to
> the next. Thats an old one - and extremely annoying.

Mine does remember to use A4. You can set it in about:config. Set
variable "print.printer_PostScript/<your_printer>.print_paper_name" to
A4. It's a per printer setting.

Cheers
Steffen.