RFC: cronKit

[Christoph Höger]

Hi,

since I sync my mail with the experimental gnome ui of offlineimap, I
encounter a small problem: 
How do I tell cron to only invoke the job when I am logged in under
gnome only? Since consolekit (correct me if I am wrong on that) does not
provide a way to get that information (it is even unclear if dbus is
running at all), I was thinking of the following solution:

Since I want the job only to be run if I am logged in under gnome the
main idea is to have a process added to the session that can handle
crontab like jobs (aka cronKit)

Do you have any advice on that? Does such a software already exist?

regards

Christoph

[Till Maas]

On Mon July 6 2009, Christoph Höger wrote:

>  since I sync my mail with the experimental gnome ui of offlineimap,
> I
>  encounter a small problem:
>  How do I tell cron to only invoke the job when I am logged in under
>  gnome only? Since consolekit (correct me if I am wrong on that) does not 
>  Do you have any advice on that? Does such a software already exist?
You can probably replace "till" with your username and then use this in your 
crontab:

ps u -C gnome-session | egrep -q  "^till " && offlineimap

Regards
Till

[Christoph Höger]

>  ps u -C gnome-session | egrep -q  "^till " &&
> offlineimap 
Yeah, that would be a hack ;).

[Christoph Höger]

What I forgot to mention: Obviously it is not enough to know that there
is a gnome session running. My programs should inherit the environment.

[Casey Dahlin]

On 07/06/2009 03:58 PM, Christoph Höger wrote:
>  What I forgot to mention: Obviously it is not enough to know that
> there
>  is a gnome session running. My programs should inherit the environment.
>   
I'll point out that upstart will do all this to some point, but I don't expect you
to wait around for us :)

--CJD

[Christoph Höger]

Am Montag, den 06.07.2009, 16:02 -0400 schrieb Casey Dahlin:
>  On 07/06/2009 03:58 PM, Christoph Höger wrote:
>  > What I forgot to mention: Obviously it is not enough to know that there
>  > is a gnome session running. My programs should inherit the environment.
>  > 
>  
>  I'll point out that upstart will do all this to some point, but I don't expect
> you to wait around for us :)
>  
>  --CJD
>   
Could it handle jobs as gnome child processes? Or would upstart solve
that issue differently?

[Casey Dahlin]

On 07/06/2009 04:05 PM, Christoph Höger wrote:
>  Am Montag, den 06.07.2009, 16:02 -0400 schrieb Casey Dahlin:
> > On 07/06/2009 03:58 PM, Christoph Höger wrote:
> >> What I forgot to mention: Obviously it is not enough to know that there
> >> is a gnome session running. My programs should inherit the environment.
> >>
> > I'll point out that upstart will do all this to some point, but I don't
> expect you to wait around for us :)
> >
> > --CJD
> >
>  
>  Could it handle jobs as gnome child processes? Or would upstart solve
>  that issue differently?
>   
Once all the bits are in place Upstart will likely offer a completely different way to
manage user sessions. It may offer us the chance to do away with gnome-session altogether,
in favor of something more abstract (i.e. an object within upstart tracking session
processes, which are all children of init).

--CJD

[Christoph Wickert]

Am Montag, den 06.07.2009, 19:03 +0200 schrieb Christoph Höger:
>  Hi,
>  
>  since I sync my mail with the experimental gnome ui of offlineimap, I
>  encounter a small problem: 
>  How do I tell cron to only invoke the job when I am logged in under
>  gnome only? 
How about http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php/DoThisNow

>  Since I want the job only to be run if I am logged in under gnome
> the
>  main idea is to have a process added to the session that can handle
>  crontab like jobs (aka cronKit) 
No more kits please. ;) Whatever the new software would be named, pls
don't make another *kit.

Regards,
Christoph

[Christoph Höger]

Am Sonntag, den 12.07.2009, 01:54 +0200 schrieb Christoph Wickert:
>  How about http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php/DoThisNow 
Looks, good, thanks Christoph.

>  No more kits please. ;) Whatever the new software would be named,
> pls
>  don't make another *kit. 
What about a KitKit to manage tham all? Or NameKit for controlling how
newly created software will be named? ;)

[Christoph Höger]

Am Sonntag, den 12.07.2009, 22:04 +0200 schrieb Christoph Höger:
>  Am Sonntag, den 12.07.2009, 01:54 +0200 schrieb Christoph Wickert:
>  > How about http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php/DoThisNow
>  
>  Looks, good, thanks Christoph. 
Darn. Not free.

[Christoph Wickert]

Am Sonntag, den 12.07.2009, 22:09 +0200 schrieb Christoph Höger:
>  Am Sonntag, den 12.07.2009, 22:04 +0200 schrieb Christoph Höger:
>  > Am Sonntag, den 12.07.2009, 01:54 +0200 schrieb Christoph Wickert:
>  > > How about http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php/DoThisNow
>  > 
>  > Looks, good, thanks Christoph.
>  
>  Darn. Not free. 
Sorry about that, I didn't notice. Time for a free port I think ;)

Regards,
Christoph

[Christoph Höger]

Am Sonntag, den 12.07.2009, 22:22 +0200 schrieb Christoph Wickert:
>  Am Sonntag, den 12.07.2009, 22:09 +0200 schrieb Christoph Höger:
>  > Am Sonntag, den 12.07.2009, 22:04 +0200 schrieb Christoph Höger:
>  > > Am Sonntag, den 12.07.2009, 01:54 +0200 schrieb Christoph Wickert:
>  > > > How about http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php/DoThisNow
>  > > 
>  > > Looks, good, thanks Christoph.
>  > 
>  > Darn. Not free.
>  
>  Sorry about that, I didn't notice. Time for a free port I think ;) 
Yes, after my exam in SOA, I can definetely need something to work on
besides my thesis. That will fit that hole. I'll still need to see what
language and tools I'll use.