12:28 p.m.
New GDM's feature (from wiki):
"a compositor on the login screen, for nice graphical effects"
I don't think this may be a good idea... openSUSE had this, and the
compiz ran by GDM never get killed...
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12:38 p.m.
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
New GDM's feature (from wiki):
"a compositor on the login screen, for nice graphical effects"
I don't think this may be a good idea... openSUSE had this, and the
compiz ran by GDM never get killed...
It would nice if you actually tried it out in Fedora and provide
feedback instead of basing your opinion on a different codebase in a
different distribution.
Rahul
1:04 p.m.
Dnia 26-03-2008, śro o godzinie 23:08 +0530, Rahul Sundaram pisze:
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
> New GDM's feature (from wiki):
> "a compositor on the login screen, for nice graphical effects"
>
> I don't think this may be a good idea... openSUSE had this, and the
> compiz ran by GDM never get killed...
It would nice if you actually tried it out in Fedora and provide
feedback instead of basing your opinion on a different codebase in a
different distribution.
It's true I know...
But I see no sane way to try Rawhide.
Upgrade? Too much to download.
Virtual machine? Extremely slow
Clean install? Not for me, since I use my Fedora as my desktop distro...
I'll be patient and I'll wait 'till F9 ;) .
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1:07 p.m.
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek <
jakub.rusinek(a)gmail.com>
I'll be patient and I'll wait 'till F9 ;) .
But you AREN"T being patient. You are commenting on the testing and
development process without actually participating. This greatly de-values
your input and pretty much makes your comments nothing but noise.
Please, either step up to the plate and invest the time necessary into
participating in the testing... or limit your communication on the matter.
-jef
1:10 p.m.
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
Dnia 26-03-2008, śro o godzinie 23:08 +0530, Rahul Sundaram pisze:
> It would nice if you actually tried it out in Fedora and provide
> feedback instead of basing your opinion on a different codebase in a
> different distribution.
It's true I know...
But I see no sane way to try Rawhide.
You could try Fedora 9-Beta. It just came out recently, and it includes
live images too. neat.
-- Rex
1:19 p.m.
Rex Dieter (rdieter(a)math.unl.edu) said:
> It's true I know...
> But I see no sane way to try Rawhide.
You could try Fedora 9-Beta. It just came out recently, and it includes
live images too. neat.
In any case:
1) the compositor mentioned isn't compiz
2) it's not enabled in the beta, AFAICT
Bill
1:40 p.m.
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Bill Nottingham <notting(a)redhat.com> wrote:
1) the compositor mentioned isn't compiz
2) it's not enabled in the beta, AFAICT
Bill
The most important thing for me would be that it were not resource hungry
or if it
were not enabled by default. If I am already going to load, say
Fluxbox or IceWM to avoid loading down my computer, I don't want the login
screen bogging me down.
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influence. For since they are outside of your power to control them it is
simply a waste of time and energy to dwell on them. Instead, turn your
attention to those things that you can control and grow your influence in
those areas and you will see the effects begin to trickle out to those items
that were previously out of your power to influence." – Eric Mesa inspired
by Covey's 7 Habits of Highly Effective People
3:39 p.m.
Hi,
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Bill Nottingham <notting(a)redhat.com> wrote:
Rex Dieter (rdieter(a)math.unl.edu) said:
> > It's true I know...
> > But I see no sane way to try Rawhide.
>
> You could try Fedora 9-Beta. It just came out recently, and it includes
> live images too. neat.
In any case:
1) the compositor mentioned isn't compiz
2) it's not enabled in the beta, AFAICT
Actually, the screenshot was of a GDM using compiz. :)
But yeah, it isn't enabled by default for the same reasons it isn't on
by default for user sessions.
You can play with compiz in the greeter by setting the following GConf
key to true for the "gdm" user (or in GConf defaults):
/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/wm_use_compiz
Configuration stuff is described a bit here:
http://live.gnome.org/GDM/2.22/Configuration
Jon
5:37 a.m.
Bill Nottingham wrote:
In any case:
1) the compositor mentioned isn't compiz
2) it's not enabled in the beta, AFAICT
Indeed, is not enabled in the beta. Is there a way to enable it or the
code is not pushed yet?
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8:12 a.m.
Dnia 27-03-2008, czw o godzinie 12:37 +0200, Nicu Buculei pisze:
Bill Nottingham wrote:
>
> In any case:
>
> 1) the compositor mentioned isn't compiz
> 2) it's not enabled in the beta, AFAICT
Indeed, is not enabled in the beta. Is there a way to enable it or the
code is not pushed yet?
I made little investigation with Google.
GDM has its own user 'gdm' and gdm's GConf is used to configure GDM.
| su -c 'gconf-editor' gdm
Maybe this helps :) ?
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2:21 p.m.
New subject: GDM slow (was: Re: Compositor in GDM)
On 26.03.2008 19:10, Rex Dieter wrote:
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
> Dnia 26-03-2008, śro o godzinie 23:08 +0530, Rahul Sundaram pisze:
>> It would nice if you actually tried it out in Fedora and provide
>> feedback instead of basing your opinion on a different codebase in a
>> different distribution.
> It's true I know...
> But I see no sane way to try Rawhide.
You could try Fedora 9-Beta. It just came out recently, and it includes
live images too. neat.
While on it:
I upgraded two of my machines to rawhide some days ago. It now takes a
whole lot longer to start GDM (I didn't measure, but it feels like it
takes three for four times longer than in F8) . Is that a known
(feature|problem)? Should I file a bug? Is there one already?
CU
knurd
2:45 p.m.
New subject: GDM slow (was: Re: Compositor in GDM)
On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 20:21 +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
I upgraded two of my machines to rawhide some days ago. It now takes a
whole lot longer to start GDM (I didn't measure, but it feels like it
takes three for four times longer than in F8) . Is that a known
(feature|problem)? Should I file a bug? Is there one already?
Known. Development is working on the "get it right, then get it fast"
method.
--
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- All my bits are free, are yours?
2:55 p.m.
New subject: GDM slow (was: Re: Compositor in GDM)
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Thorsten Leemhuis <fedora(a)leemhuis.info> wrote:
I upgraded two of my machines to rawhide some days ago. It now takes a
whole lot longer to start GDM (I didn't measure, but it feels like it
takes three for four times longer than in F8) . Is that a known
(feature|problem)? Should I file a bug? Is there one already?
On the other hand, it should be faster to log into the full desktop,
because GDM is now paging in much more of the desktop libraries and
daemon code.
3:08 p.m.
New subject: GDM slow (was: Re: Compositor in GDM)
On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 15:55 -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
On the other hand, it should be faster to log into the full desktop,
because GDM is now paging in much more of the desktop libraries and
daemon code.
If only that were true. I still have to stare at a blank screen for a
good amount of time, and then a half working desktop as panel applets
struggle to start up. Time from start of login screen to actual usable
desktop is still pretty terrible.
--
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- All my bits are free, are yours?
3:34 p.m.
New subject: GDM slow (was: Re: Compositor in GDM)
Hey,
2008/3/26 Jesse Keating <jkeating(a)redhat.com>:
On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 15:55 -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
>
> On the other hand, it should be faster to log into the full desktop,
> because GDM is now paging in much more of the desktop libraries and
> daemon code.
If only that were true. I still have to stare at a blank screen for a
good amount of time, and then a half working desktop as panel applets
struggle to start up. Time from start of login screen to actual usable
desktop is still pretty terrible.
I've added a profiling framework to both GDM and gnome-settings-daemon.
You can see some results here:
http://www.gnome.org/~mccann/g-s-d/startup/
There seems to be a really nasty delay in the initialization of the
volume mixer in gstreamer for some reason... among a few other things.
Jon
4:18 p.m.
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
New GDM's feature (from wiki):
"a compositor on the login screen, for nice graphical effects"
I don't think this may be a good idea... openSUSE had this, and the
compiz ran by GDM never get killed...
At any rate, IIRC, the reason openSUSE runs compiz over gdm isn't
because there's a huge need for login-screen bling, it's because Xgl
assumes that compiz is always there to double-buffer its drawing for it,
and so if compiz *isn't* there, you see ugly visual artifacts in some
situations. But Xorg wouldn't have this problem.
-- Dan
4:32 p.m.
Dnia 26-03-2008, śro o godzinie 17:18 -0400, Dan Winship pisze:
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote:
> New GDM's feature (from wiki):
> "a compositor on the login screen, for nice graphical effects"
>
> I don't think this may be a good idea... openSUSE had this, and the
> compiz ran by GDM never get killed...
At any rate, IIRC, the reason openSUSE runs compiz over gdm isn't
because there's a huge need for login-screen bling, it's because Xgl
assumes that compiz is always there to double-buffer its drawing for it,
and so if compiz *isn't* there, you see ugly visual artifacts in some
situations. But Xorg wouldn't have this problem.
I didn't used XGL. XGL is ugly piece of... Hey, you know what ;) .
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http://liviopl.jogger.pl/
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