Re: RH recommends using Windows? plus a Question!
by Jef Spaleta
Michael K. Johnson wrote:
> Say you are searching for video card foo. It has average rating bar.
> You want to look into this more, so you click on "read all reports"
> Reports that look interesting, you click on "see hardware" and you
> have the entire hardware database for the machine (we probably
> shouldn't include things like tag ids from dmidecode :-) and you
> can see what the context is. Some main things (say motherboard
> version, running kernel version, that type of thing) can be displayed
> in short form with the review.
Well i was thinking take it a step further down the fancy metric...and
allow people to specify a few core components in one query and have
crossed referenced reports pop up in a most/least relevant listing.
I'd imagine there will be a metric crapload of reports for certain video
cards. Being able to narrow down by picking your mobo and maybe even
your monitor could help sort the initial list of reports you are going
to pull up, just by bringing any relevant mobo/card issues up to the
top.
> Then, if you really want to get fancy, you add the ability to add
> comments to individual reports. You happen to know that the reason
> the video card foo didn't work on that system is that there's a
> conflict with bios version J.UNK on that particular motherboard.
> So you post a annotation to that effect.
Hmm..is it wise to make it point and click easy to list brokenness in a
hardware database that is completely seperate from bugzilla? I'd really
hate to lose useful bugreports to comments in the hardware database and
make developers have to troll the hardware reviews as well to find out
if a piece of hardware has a problem. A review based hardware database
makes some sense as an end-user tool for people choosing hardware to
use, but i don't know if it makes sense as a tool for developers to keep
track of specific hardware issues...and i'd hate to see review comments
become the prefered end-user way to report problems...but have bugzilla
be the preferred developer way to track problems.
> If you want to get really fancy, you do an advogato-like voting
> structure so that consistently clueful reporters have their
> ratings weighted higher in producing the averages.
Well i vote for mocking up the forum side of this with a pre-existing
forum codebase if at all possible. A specially crafted advogato reporter
client to script the hardware reports to submit would be simple for
someone to bootstrap together i would imagine. But would a stock
advogato forum provide enough initial usefulness as a target forum
platform to play with? Is linux-usb.org device database a useful example
of this sort of thing minus the advogato ranking system?
http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/
-jef"just looking for a good pre-existing starting point"spaleta
20 years, 5 months
Re: A presentation
by Kevin Worthington
> My main machine is now a hush mini-ITX Epia-M machine. I hope to sell
> these machines with a Linux desktop installed (DVD playback is my
> current battle).
To get DVD playback, go to http://freshrpms.net
Matthias has all the necessary codecs and packages there to watch DVDs.
HTH,
Kev
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20 years, 5 months
Re: Development Offer
by Anthony Saffer
> So, my question is, does someone even start writing any spec/code on a
> system task scheduler desktop tool for the Fedora project. If any, and if
my
> assistance is welcome, then please get in touch with me. If not, then I
may
> start working on my own side on some kind of specifications.
Hi Xavier,
I've recently started work on a GUI interface to cron and at in Perl. But
from reading around, it doesn't look like my project will ever make it into
the release (due to it not being Python source). I think there's a lot of
room for a good scheduler out there. Good luck!
Anthony
20 years, 5 months
A dhcpd.conf GUI
by Philip Van Hoof
Hi there,
Three days ago I was reading the fedora webpages, two days ago I started
giving some lessions to two of my friends in Gtk-Sharp and C#. Because
while I was reading the fedora webpages I noticed that fedora is looking
for a dhcpd.conf GUI, it gave me the idea to implement this using Gtk-
Sharp and use it for educating those two friends of mine.
So I asked my "students" to create a GUI and created the parser myself.
The first lession was Gtk-Sharp using Glade-Sharp and also glade-2. The
second lession was Exception handing, recursive function calls, Regular
Expressions, etc etc. So, again, I figured that a "dhcpd.conf"-file
parser in C# would be a great way to explain such stuff :). But they
would probably not yet succeed in getting stuff working yet. So I made
it as a sample for them, so they can study it.
Of course is stuff pretty much unfinished but we have decided to go
ahead and finish the complete application at some point ;). Something
like: Just for Fun, and because that way those two friends have a pretty
good way of learning how to write a Gtk-Sharp application: They learn by
writing a real one from scratch.
I understand that fedora is probably not yet shipping with Mono nor Gtk-
Sharp. So it's possible that such a GUI cannot be used (yet).
Nevertheless I want to share it with you guys. That way you can decide
what you want to do with it. The die-hard python gods will probably want
to port it to python, the die-hard C gods will probably want to port it
to plain C and the perl monks will probably want to create 600 versions
of this application which will all use another method of solving the
problem. Probably will 599 versions use perl regular expressions and 1
version will most likely be never understandable by anybody else than
Larry Wall and the original coder of it. And I say to them: go ahead :).
ps. It's also very possible that just nothing will happen at all. Also
good. Yet, we (because, me too) are learning while programming this
application. So don't kill us for trying to write it. In case you
dislike it, we are not doing it for _you_ anyway.
The Class1.cs is a Console application that will actually parse a dhcpd.
conf file into a few classes (build up in a recursive tree-way). It also
prints some values... for testing. It's not yet integrated with a Gtk-
Sharp GUI (and my students/two friends are still working on the Gtk-
Sharp/Glade-Sharp GUI code).
The attached .glade file is highly unfinished and just a tryout,
actually. It (should) look a lot like the redhat-config-samba tool.
Please do let me know what you think of it. Do fix crab and bugs if
thats what you want to do.
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20 years, 5 months
Setting Default Theme
by jeff
I'm working up the mailing list food chain for an answer to this as I haven't
been able to figure it out...
What file contains the default system theme? I mean, when you add a new user,
they get that theme automatically instead of Bluecurve.
I've changed a number of files, but they don't do the trick:
/etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc
/etc/skel/.gtkrc
/etc/gconf/schemas/desktop_gnome_interface.schemas
/etc/gconf/schemas/metacity.schemas
/usr/share/themes/Default/gtk/gtkrc
I have heard a couple of suggestions on ways to try to get around it (e.g.
drop some other files in /etc/skel), but I want to do it the redhat/fedora
way. Somehow, somewhere ya'll set the theme--where does it hide? :)
Anyone?
Thanks,
-Jeff
20 years, 5 months
Re: RH recommends using Windows? plus a Question!
by Jef Spaleta
Michael K. Johnson wrote:
> My basic concept is that there's a lot of information on the system
> that you can get at with tools like lspci and dmidecode. Parse that
> into units of hardware and present the user a GUI that lets them
> make some easy assignments for how well things work (default is
> "don't know" in order to avoid garbage) with definitions for the
> levels, and places for comments for each piece of hardware. Then
> this data is uploaded (signed with the user's gpg key?) in a
> structured, parseable format (xml?) to a centralized database that
> is both downloadable and web-searchable.
Hmm well lets see...what other things have a model like this...freedb.
Maybe there are lessons to be learned from freedb.
Some hard issues though for me...
Even if you do have people sign their specs with gpg...how do you really know
who's key's to trust. And how do you deal with conflicting reports. I'd imagine
certain popular off the shelf groups of hardware will have a lot of
reports...a lot of conflicting reports (depending on several factors of
the user's particular experience level). can't really limit this sort of
thing to a few trusted individuals..yer going to need a wide range of
people with a wide range of hardware for this to be useful.
And, how do you make sure the hardware database takes into account
specific hardware conflicts...not just broken hardware...but specific
issues with specific combinations of hardware.
Seems to me this sort of thing almost ends up being a specifically
tasked rework of bugzilla in a way....but with a mature way to cross
reference conflicting hardware reports that crop up. So that people can
do queries on a grouping of hardware so they can see if there are
specific incompatibilities when certain hardware is used together.
So maybe video card A works with motherboard 1 seamlessly...but not with
motherboard 2...having a way to query not just a piece of hardware and
see all known comments for it...but a way to query specific groupings of
hardware to narrow down relevant reports.
-jef"this monster is going to need a bit of care and feeding...maybe
even some sort of /. like moderation scheme to keep hardware comments
maintained"spaleta
20 years, 5 months
Software Installation Question
by Anthony Saffer
Hello Again Everyone,
I've decided to go ahead and write a cron/at GUI scheduler in Perl/Tk. While
I know that it might not making into the distribution, I still could offer
it as an alternative to the one that does make it in. Since I've never
developed software for Linux before (aside from a few C programs that I
controlled where things went) I'm not sure how to handle installation. Let's
say someone downloads my program (presumably contained in one Perl file) do
THEY decide where to place it or is this something I need to provide an
installer script for?
Thanks!
Anthony Saffer
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20 years, 5 months
A presentation
by tony
Hello,
I'm new - and old fashioned... I remember the days when, if one joined a
list, it was good etiquette to present ones self. I still do that.
Today's news and various mail from RHN sent me a signal that it was time
to give back a little more. I seem to be one of the few reading /. that
actually understand why the changes underway are happening. And why they
are good. Good for Linux. Good for Redhat. And good for users such as
myself.
I have been using Redhat Linux since 1997. I have a habit of installing
it on strange hardware: the first time was on a Mac PowerBook running a
w@rez beta copy of VirtualPC. I learnt more about Linux in those three
weeks than I have since. I learnt so much about Redhat Linux that I have
only flirted with other distros.
I ran it on some classic iron for a time. Then I graduated to a Sony
C1XD Picturebook. I still use that on the road.
My main machine is now a hush mini-ITX Epia-M machine. I hope to sell
these machines with a Linux desktop installed (DVD playback is my
current battle).
I don't know where I can help. But I'm here, and willing to do so.
Cheers
Tony Grant
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20 years, 5 months
AMD 64 - What can I do to help?
by Pete Bradbury
Subject says it all.
Like to help as I've just got an AMD 64 FX gizzmo.
Just someone explain what I could do and I'll try to do some of the simpler
tasks...
20 years, 5 months
