devel September 2003

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sun jdk1.4.2_01 plugin crash?
by Klaasjan Brand 29 Sep '03

29 Sep '03

Hi, Anyone got the latest sun jdk + java plugin for mozilla to work? I've copied the gcc3.2 compiled plugin.so into the /usr/lib/mozilla-1.4/plugins directory, but I'm getting a crash on mozilla (epiphany) whenever there's an applet on the page... -- Klaasjan Brand <kjb(a)dds.nl>

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What is the submission process for backgrounds?
by Chuck Talk 29 Sep '03

29 Sep '03

Hi, I was just wondering what the submission process was for backgrounds. I have some nice phtos from the Silicon Hills of Austin, TX I thought you might like (looking out over the hills toward Lake Travis. But was wondering what submission process, format, etc. You might prefer. All copyleft photos given freely to enjoy. Sincerely, Chuck Talk

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Showstopper in the RPM submission procesdure
by Eric S. Raymond 29 Sep '03

29 Sep '03

I have spent significant portions of the last couple of days trying to weap my mind around what Fedora is doing. Let me start off by saying that I think the direction of the project is wonderful and much needed. As a system administrator managing three boxes, I love the prospect of being able to use apt-get or yum to continuously upgrade my systems without having to go through periodic CD shuffles and reboots. Thus, I've joined fedora-devel to help. However, at the moment there is at least one serious practical problem that loses me as a package contributor. That is the use of Bugzilla (or any other method that requires manual click-and-confirm) for RPM submission. Most people maintain one or two packages at most; they can live with a manual submission process. At last count, I maintained thirty-seven packages -- thus, I can't. (This is also why I don't publish through SourceForge.) What I need is to be able to write an "upload" script for each of my projects *once* (per project) that remote-scripts the RPM submission process and all other things I need to do to publish a release. So, what I need from Fedora is for there to be a submission front end (call it 'fedora-submit') which, given a collection of RPMS as arguments, does in a batch mode all that is necessary to upload them and put them on a submission queue at fedora. It is OK if fedora-submit requires additional metadata as long as it can all be specified at start of run by command-line switches. I asked about this on the IRC channel and was told that Bugzilla has an XML-RPC interface. If so, writing fedora-submit as an XML-RPC client ought not be too difficult; I would be surprised if it required more than 150-200 lines of Python. I am actually willing to write this myself, if anyone can point me at documentation for the XML-RPC interface to Bugzilla and is willing to answer questions about places where the documentation is inadequate. In the process, I would be willing to help improve the (presently inadequate) documentation on the submission procedure. In case it's not obvious, I think the result ought to ship as part of fedora-core in order to reduce the entry barriers for independent packagers as much as possible. -- <a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a>

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SystemServices info
by Havoc Pennington 29 Sep '03

29 Sep '03

Hi, Seth posted more about his SystemServices thing (skip the 80s music paragraph). http://www.gnome.org/~seth/blog/2003/Sep/27 Havoc

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Usability of new graphical boot process...
by Derek P. Moore 29 Sep '03

29 Sep '03

The new graphical boot process is purdy keen... However, it could use one little change to increase its overall usability. As the progess bar moves from left to right, the name of the service that is attempting to start is shown for a few seconds then faded away. This is nice eyecandy, but it's really inconvenient if a particular service is taking forever or hanging indefinately. If I'm not lucky enough to catch the name of the service in the few seconds before it fades away, I'll have no idea what's going wrong 'til I reboot and devote 100% of my attention to watching the names of the services before they fade away. I brought this up in #fedora-devel, but thought I'd post to the mailing list so this issue actually gets some attention. In #fedora-devel someone suggested that instead of the names fading away after a few seconds, they could fade from one into the next. That sounds like a much more sensible option if we really want fading eyecandy. Okay, I'm done now, Derek

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[loganlinux@hotmail.com: Error in UP2DATE]
by Florian La Roche 28 Sep '03

28 Sep '03

I can reproduce this. rpm-4.2.1-3 on a RHL9 box with kernel-2.4.21-3.EL and glibc-2.3.2-27.9. Extracting a set of rpms seems to always give a corrupt rpm database. The only note-worthy thing is a failed kernel postinstall for those rpms. I'll check if I can find some more details. greetings, Florian La Roche ----- Forwarded message from Logan Linux <loganlinux(a)hotmail.com> ----- From: "Logan Linux" <loganlinux(a)hotmail.com> Subject: Error in UP2DATE To: redhat-list(a)redhat.com, shrike-list(a)redhat.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 15:28:08 +1000 Hi all, still happeneing, I would love someone to enlighten me as to what this error means... error: db4 error(-30989) from dbcursor->c_get: DB_PAGE_NOTFOUND: Requested page not found error: db4 error(-30989) from dbcursor->c_get: DB_PAGE_NOTFOUND: Requested page not found Happens after all packages have completed installation. No rpm processes running. I have just updated (and restarted) - popt1.8-1, rpm4.2-1, (build, devel, and python) Error still occurring... PLEASE help! Logan _________________________________________________________________ Hot chart ringtones and polyphonics. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/share/redir/adTrack.asp?mode=click&clientID=174&refer… -- Shrike-list mailing list Shrike-list(a)redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/shrike-list ----- End forwarded message -----

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Re: fedora only for US users ?
by Cosmic Flo 28 Sep '03

28 Sep '03

================= >From: Pekka Savola <pekkas(a)netcore.fi> >Reply-To: fedora-devel-list(a)redhat.com >To: fedora-devel-list(a)redhat.com >Subject: Re: fedora only for US users ? >Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:32:58 +0300 (EEST) > >On Sat, 27 Sep 2003, David Necas (Yeti) wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 07:23:13PM +0100, Julien Olivier wrote: > > > You're right ! But those problems are _nothing_ compared to the >problems > > > you face when you don't speak a single word of English and yet have to > > > use English-only apps. > > > > But then we are no longer talkig about developers and early > > adopters. When one can't read README's in tarballs, one can > > hardly fall into these categories. > >_Exactly_ my point, thanks. I realize that for some user communities, >translations (even shoddy ones) are very important.. but strictly >speaking, for Fedora Core they probably aren't. I speak for fedora.redhat.com web site, including documentations. For that, translations are very importants ! PS : i don't see why you're speaking about tarballs _________________________________________________________________ MSN Search, le moteur de recherche qui pense comme vous ! http://search.msn.fr/

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OpenGroupware.org?
by Wil Cooley 27 Sep '03

27 Sep '03

I thought OpenGroupware.org was slated to be in the next beta; did this get pushed back? Do we have to wait for Fedora Contrib or whatever? Wil -- Wil Cooley wcooley(a)nakedape.cc Naked Ape Consulting http://nakedape.cc * * * * * * Linux Services for Small Businesses * * * * * * * Easy, reliable solutions for small businesses * * Naked Ape Business Server http://nakedape.cc/r/sms *

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gnome-terminal is slow to death
by Behdad Esfahbod 27 Sep '03

27 Sep '03

Hi again, Am I wrong, or gnome-terminal has _become_ too slow in 0.94? BTW, is fedora.us going to port their RPMs for 0.94? Moreover, when I added arjanv's 2.6 repository, from the sample in /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources, and tried to install his kernel by up2date, I got a silly error message: file /lib/modules from install of kernel-2.6.0-0.test5.1.45 conflicts with file from package filesystem-2.2.1-4 Arjan? Can you fix that? behdad

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Re: free software guidelines
by Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan 27 Sep '03

27 Sep '03

"Rodrigo Del C. Andrade" <fedora_rh(a)terra.com.br> wrote: > > Er.. sorry, it was the shock. But now, serioulsy: why?! Pine is great! > > GNU nano is greater. Have you tried it? ------------------------ Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan __________________________________________________________________ McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455

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