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Package suggestion: Epylog
by Konstantin Ryabitsev 27 Sep '03

27 Sep '03

Hello, all: I would like to humbly suggest that Epylog be included into Fedora Core -- not in the current test, of course, but some time in the future. What it is: Epylog is a syslog parser which runs periodically, looks at your logs, processes some of the entries in order to present them in a more comprehensible format, and then mails you the output. It is written specifically for large network clusters where a lot of machines (around 50 and upwards) log to the same loghost using syslog or syslog-ng. It is an alternative to a similar package called LogWatch. See more: http://linux.duke.edu/projects/epylog/ Pros: 1. Written in Python (2.2 and above) 2. Written specifically for Red Hat Linux 7.x and above. 3. GPL 4. Actively maintained 5. Sends log reports in both HTML and plaintext. 6. Can publish reports to a location instead of mailing them, with optional notification via email about new reports available. 7. Memory footprint is kept small at all times, despite the size of logs (which may be hundreds of megabytes in size) 8. Robust and easily extensible using pluggable parsing modules. 9. Parsing modules can be written in Python, or in fact any other language, using the external module API. 10. Been used extensively to do log reporting for large cluster installations at Duke and several other EDUs. 11. Graphical front-ends to it do not exist at the moment, but should be simple to write. Theoretically, it could be a replacement/extension for redhat-logviewer. Cons: 1. It's a relatively obscure application largely not known outside Duke University. 2. Though it's been in use for over a year at Duke, it's not well tested in a large variety of situations. 3. Parsing modules do not exist for other platforms where syslog strings may differ from the ones in Linux/Fedora. 4. Due to threading and speed optimizations, Python parsing module API is not very easy to grok. :/ Please see the website for more information. I would be willing to be the Fedora package maintainer for it. http://linux.duke.edu/projects/epylog/ Best regards, -- Konstantin ("Icon") Riabitsev Duke Physics Sysadmin, RHCE

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Re: fedora only for US users ?
by Cosmic Flo 27 Sep '03

27 Sep '03

>From: Nils Philippsen <nphilipp(a)redhat.com> >Reply-To: fedora-devel-list(a)redhat.com >To: fedora-devel-list(a)redhat.com >Subject: Re: fedora only for US users ? >Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:47:00 +0200 > >On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 10:18, Cosmic Flo wrote: > > this message is a little hard but : > >I wouldn't say it's hard, I would say these are bug reports. Consider >checking the various Bugzillas for these and submitting reports if >they're not in there already. > > > - at first time wizard, keyboard configuration is US, not the selected > > language at install. > >Bug. --> bugzilla.redhat.com done > > - mozilla is only configured for US (language for web page, interface), >the > > selected language at install have no importance. > >Upstream bug I guess (is Mozilla multi-language aware? I don't see any >message catalogs...). --> bugzilla.mozilla.org Here the .xpi for Mozilla 1.4 french language : http://frenchmozilla.sourceforge.net/FTP/1.4/mozilla-l10n-fr-FR-1.4-1.xpi Here the line for "language for web page" in ~/.mozilla/default/s6uggra5.slt/prefs.js : user_pref("intl.accept_languages", "fr, en-us, en"); Can't prefs.js with the good language value be added in /etc/skel ? > > - evolution's meteo is Boston US, I have selected an other city in >Europe bug reported too in bugzilla. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Messenger 6 http://g.msn.fr/FR1001/866 : dialoguez en son et en image avec vos amis.

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Re: OpenOffice 1.1rcX rpm?
by Derek P. Moore 26 Sep '03

26 Sep '03

> Dan just finished getting 1.0.2 fixed for RHEL 3. Why not 1.0.3.1?

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rpm version-release in Version strings of OpenSSH, Apache etc?
by Pekka Savola 26 Sep '03

26 Sep '03

Hi, Would it make sense to add the rpm version-release strings in the OpenSSH, Apache, etc. banners, e.g. like..: SSH-1.99-OpenSSH_3.5p1 3.5p1-11 instead of just: SSH-1.99-OpenSSH_3.5p1 .. this should be rather straightforward for the build process. The gain would be that if you e.g. perform security scans in your network you could identify whether a patched version has been installed in the systems in question.. -- Pekka Savola "You each name yourselves king, yet the Netcore Oy kingdom bleeds." Systems. Networks. Security. -- George R.R. Martin: A Clash of Kings

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OpenOffice 1.1rcX rpm?
by Jos Vos 26 Sep '03

26 Sep '03

Hi, I see that Severn 2 still has OO 1.0.2 in it. Any chance we'll see a OO 1.1rcX rpm for testing soon? Thanks, -- -- Jos Vos <jos(a)xos.nl> -- X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV | Phone: +31 20 6938364 -- Amsterdam, The Netherlands | Fax: +31 20 6948204

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Re: rpm version-release in Version strings of OpenSSH, Apache etc?
by Nils O. Selåsdal 26 Sep '03

26 Sep '03

On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 11:30, Pekka Savola wrote: > Hi, > > Would it make sense to add the rpm version-release strings in the OpenSSH, > Apache, etc. banners, e.g. like..: > > SSH-1.99-OpenSSH_3.5p1 3.5p1-11 > > instead of just: > > SSH-1.99-OpenSSH_3.5p1 > > .. this should be rather straightforward for the build process. > > The gain would be that if you e.g. perform security scans in your network > you could identify whether a patched version has been installed in the > systems in question.. And so could an attacker. Making sure your network is up2date is probably best resolved at some higher management level.

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Usercreation-policy
by Enrico Scholz 26 Sep '03

26 Sep '03

Hello, a lot of packages are depending on special users. IMO, there should be some rules, how users will be created in Fedora Project packages. In the old Fedora Linux Project (http://fedora.us) I made some suggestions in http://www.fedora.us/pipermail/fedora-devel/2003-September/002057.html Basically, this describes semi-static UIDs which are registered for the entire Fedora Project. Then, packages would use | %pre | /usr/sbin/fedora-useradd 42 -s /bin/false joe to create an user 'joe' with the relative UID 42. This relative UID will be added to a system-wide and user-customizable value (taken from /etc/fedora/usermgmt/baseuid). For details, please see the URL above. Reasons why not use the static | /usr/sbin/useradd -u 42 joe or dynamic | /usr/sbin/useradd -r joe are explained in http://www.fedora.us/wiki/PackageUserCreation http://www.fedora.us/wiki/PackageDynamicUserCreationConsideredBad A proof of concept user-database is available at http://www.fedora.us/wiki/PackageUserRegistry Thoughts, comments? Enrico

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free software guidelines
by Roozbeh Pournader 25 Sep '03

25 Sep '03

I'm wondering if there are any free software guidelines for Fedora. Most specifically, I'm wondering if Luxi fonts will continue to be distributed with Fedora. Anybody knows details? roozbeh

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Updated Fedora Core test release: Severn
by Bill Nottingham 25 Sep '03

25 Sep '03

And now, the Fedora Project presents.... We're tired, we're droopy We're all a little loopy A Fedora Core Test Release Is invading your PC! New features - interesting! The code could use some testing That's why we are requesting new bug reports quickly! On our ftp site is the place where you will see The stuff that we've been working on since 1993! We're tired, we're droopy We're all a little loopy It's a Fedora Core Test Release Come and join the fun! (And now our song is done.) Yes, it's an update of SEVERN, the Fedora Core test release. As always, test releases are not intended for use on production environments. Use of test releases in production environments could lead to disastrous results, such as spontaneous musical theatre from your engineers. Be afraid. Problems with SEVERN should be reported via bugzilla, at: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/ Please report bugs against 'Fedora Core', release 'test2'. Technical note: There are some issues with the SMP kernel; on SMP machines after installation, you may need to boot the uniprocessor kernel for stability. We'll have a fixed kernel in the next day or three; please update as soon as one is available. For more information on just what the Fedora Project and Fedora Core is, please see: http://fedora.redhat.com/ For discussion of SEVERN, send mail to: fedora-test-list-request(a)redhat.com with subscribe in the subject line. You can leave the body empty. Or see: https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list/ As always, you can get SEVERN at redhat.com, specifically: ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/beta/severn/ Or the following mirrors: North America: United States: - ftp://ftp.cse.buffalo.edu/pub/RedHat/redhat/linux/beta/severn/ - http://redhat.secsup.org/beta/severn/ - ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/redhat/beta/severn/ - ftp://redhat.dulug.duke.edu/pub/redhat/linux/beta/severn/ - ftp://ftp.linux.ncsu.edu/pub/redhat/linux/beta/severn/ - http://www.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/redhat/linux/beta/severn/ - ftp://ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/redhat/linux/beta/severn/ - rsync://rsync.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/redhat/linux/beta/severn/ - ftp://limestone.uoregon.edu/redhat/beta/severn/ Canada: - ftp://less.cogeco.net/pub/redhat/linux/beta/severn/ - ftp://ftp.nrc.ca/pub/systems/linux/redhat/ftp.redhat.com/linux/beta/severn/ South America: Chile: - ftp://ftp.tecnoera.com/Linux/redhat-beta/severn/ Europe: Czech Republic: - ftp://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/MIRRORS/ftp.redhat.com/redhat/linux/beta/severn/ - rsync://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/redhat/redhat/linux/beta/severn/ - ftp://ultra.linux.cz/MIRRORS/ftp.redhat.com/redhat/linux/beta/severn/ - ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/linux/redhat/linux/beta/severn/ - ftp://ftp6.linux.cz/pub/linux/redhat/linux/beta/severn/ Estonia - ftp://redhat.linux.ee/pub/redhat/linux/beta/severn/ Germany: - ftp://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/pub/redhat/linux/beta/severn/ - ftp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/redhat-ftp/redhat/linux/beta/severn/ - http://wftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/redhat-ftp/redhat/linux/beta/severn/ - ftp://ftp.uni-bayreuth.de/pub/redhat/linux/beta/severn/ - ftp://sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/Linux/redhat/linux/beta/severn/ Netherlands: - ftp://alviss.et.tudelft.nl/pub/redhat/beta/severn/ - ftp://ftp.quicknet.nl/pub/Linux/ftp.redhat.com/beta/severn/ United Kingdom: - http://zeniiia.linux.org.uk/pub/distributions/redhat/beta/severn/ - ftp://zeniiia.linux.org.uk/pub/distributions/redhat/beta/severn/ - rsync://zeniiia.linux.org.uk/ftp/pub/distributions/redhat/beta/severn/ Asia/Pacific: Australia: - http://planetmirror.com/pub/redhat/linux/beta/severn/ - ftp://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/redhat/linux/beta/severn/ - http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/redhat/linux/severn/ - ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/redhat/linux/severn/ One additional feature provided by the Linux community is the availability of SEVERN via BitTorrent. http://torrent.dulug.duke.edu/severn2-binary-iso.torrent http://torrent.dulug.duke.edu/severn2-source-iso.torrent RPMS for Red Hat Linux 7.3 through 9 of BitTorrent are available from: http://torrent.dulug.duke.edu/btrpms/ Usage is simple: btdownloadcurses.py --url http://URL.torrent Allow incoming TCP 6881 - 6889 to join the torrent swarm. http://torrent.dulug.duke.edu/

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RFC: Back-ported errata RPMs for EOL Red Hat releases
by rhldevel＠assursys.co.uk 25 Sep '03

25 Sep '03

Hi - Assursys are evaluating the viability of providing back-ported errata packages for Red Hat Linux releases that have reached their official End-of-Life, such as the 7.3 and 7.2 releases. If this service is of interest to your organisation, please get in touch (either privately, or on this list); we're particularly interested in hearing which releases we should prioritise on (our hunch is 7.3, 7.2, 8, 7.0, in that order), and how much such a service is worth to your organisation. At present, for insurance reasons, we can only offer such a service to EU customers. Best Regards, Alex.

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