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Re: Linux conceptual configuration problems
by Avi Alkalay 06 Nov '04

06 Nov '04

On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 02:37:56 -0800, Kenneth Porter <shiva(a)sewingwitch.com> wrote: > --On Saturday, November 06, 2004 7:25 AM -0300 Avi Alkalay > <avibrazil(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > I see Linux today as many separated programs > > that were forced to work together, but not designed to do so. So the > > system as a whole is not integrated. > > Don't forget that Linux is not Fedora. There are many flavors of Linux at > many scales, from tiny embedded systems to massive clusters. Configuration > machinery for one deployment may be inappropriate for another. Of course. But currently no massive cluster and no tiny deployment provides a way to apps integrate themselves automatically through their configurations. They allways have to ask users to manualy edit configuration files. Regards, Avi

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bad signature kernel-2.6.9-1.667.src.rpm?
by Neal Becker 06 Nov '04

06 Nov '04

sudo rpm -i http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/SRPMS/k… error: /var/tmp/rpm-xfer.WPp1Ny: V3 DSA signature: BAD, key ID 4f2a6fd2 error: /var/tmp/rpm-xfer.WPp1Ny cannot be installed

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Re: linux registry (no, not that again!)
by Peter Åstrand 06 Nov '04

06 Nov '04

>Yes, here's the linux registry topic again. This project looks >interesting. Any comments? > >http://registry.sourceforge.net/ If you are interested in "configuration frameworks" but feels that Elektra just isn't the right way to go, I suggest that you take a look at my own project Hiveconf: http://freshmeat.net/projects/hiveconf/ In my opinion, the design makes it much less intrusive than Elektra. For example, I don't expect that we can convince projects like Apache, Sendmail, Postfix, Samba etc to change configuration file formats. Instead, the configuration system should support different file formats by "plugins" or "backends". My thoughs on the Elektra project can be found at http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=5087023&forum_id=401… A Python implementation of Hiveconf exists. The next step is to write a C implementation and plugins. /Peter Åstrand <astrand(a)lysator.liu.se>

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802.11 Shared Key Authentication is bad [was NetworkManager Issues]
by Chuck Anderson 06 Nov '04

06 Nov '04

On Fri, Nov 05, 2004 at 11:30:26AM -0500, Dan Williams wrote: > On Fri, 2004-11-05 at 11:08 -0500, Charles R. Anderson wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 05, 2004 at 05:02:40PM +0100, Ziga Mahkovec wrote: > > > As for the ipw2100 driver -- versions 0.57+ now actually default to > > > OPEN. But NM overrides this so no harm done. It does make life harder > > > if you're using ifup scripts with shared key authentication though. I > > > had to patch ifup-wireless to force restricted mode. > > > > Shared Key auth is worse than no authentication/encryption at all. > > Anyone with a clue will be using Open System. I don't think we should > > put too much effort into making Shared Key easy to use. > > Charles, > > Why is it so much worse? By doing Shared Key Authentication, you are providing potential crackers with both the Plaintext and the Ciphertext for the same data. This makes is much much easier for a third party to basically figure out what the WEP key is. Here is an excerpt from Jon Edney and William A. Arbaugh's book, Real 802.11 Security, pp. 91-92: "During [shared key] authentication the access point sends a random string of 128 bytes. The way in which this "random" string is generated is not defined, but one would hope at least that it was different for each authentication attempt. The mobile station encrypts the string and sends it back. Sounds good, but hang on a moment--WEP encryption involves generating a sequence of pseudorandom bytes called the key stream and XORing it with the plaintext. So any one watching this transaction now has the plaintext challenge and the encrypted response. Therefore, simply by XORing the two together, the enemy has a copy of the RC4 random bytes. [...] The attacker is "authenticated" without ever knowing the secret key. Hopless! [...] So not only does this approach not authenticate, it actually assists the enemy to attack the encryption keys" > Also, did you read my explanation of how its much much harder with Open > System to figure out if the WEP key is wrong? That's the big sticking > point here. If we can't automatically detect whether the WEP key is > wrong or not (and waiting 30s for a failed DHCP certainly isn't > "automatic"), then we might as well not even try to improve on the > current system-config-network. I agree that that is a problem. However, there is no good way to fix it without compromising the security of the entire system.

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Problem with Fedora Core 2 remote kdesktop
by Bruce Satow 06 Nov '04

06 Nov '04

Dear Folks, At work, on my WinXP Pro computer, I start Exceed (x server), then run my SSH client to connect to my home linux server. I have set up my SSH client to tunnel all X11 connections. I can run all my X applications this way. When my server at home was running under RH9.0, I could SSH in (as described above) to my home server from work, and at the linux prompt typed the command 'kdesktop'. Then the entire KDE desktop would appear on my remote computer. All the default desktop icons, the taskbar at the bottom of the screen, all appear normally. No need for VNC services this way. And it is secure since I am tunneling my X11 connection through SSH. However there is a bug that I found.under FC2. Under Fedora Core 2, using the same method (as described above), only the desktop wallpaper appears. None of the desktop icons appear, no taskbar. The submenu from the mouse buttons work. This is a bummer for me since I upgraded from RH9 to FC2. I don't really know how to fix this problem and I don't wish to run VNC server Any ideas?

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Using RAID-1 with FC3rcN?
by Elliot Lee 05 Nov '04

05 Nov '04

Cristian ran into bug #138100 last night while upgrading his workstation. Since we don't know quite yet what the impact is on users (what situations the bug occurs in, and thus how common those situations are among users), In the interest of getting it right we may have to delay FC3 until this bug becomes clearer. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=138100 If anyone has done FC3rcN installs/upgrades that use RAID-1, please let me know the results, whether you were using LVM, and whether you had SELinux enabled. Thanks! -- Elliot

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File System Search
by Jeff Pitman 05 Nov '04

05 Nov '04

In connection with the Google Desktop Search frenzy and a small contingent asking for a Linux port, I began a small search of already available stuff on Linux and bumped into an interesting project that hasn't been discussed here, yet. (Not to be confused with this: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2003-August/msg00100.html ) URL: fsdb.sf.net (No longer active; just wanted to discuss possibilities). The gist of it is to create a fresher slocate database by using a hook in the kernel to get fs updates and store them in an intermediate format. Then, instead of a daily update, you can setup fsdb to run hourly and it uses a lot less CPU to boot. And the updates only take seconds, instead of the long annoyingly slow "updatedb". I know this only provides name searching not the full gambit that GDS provides. But, it could be a start to improve things a bit more. For example, Konqueror has "Use files index", although it's pretty buggy, which would be more useful if the DB was more up-to-date. It'd be nice to bring a standard DB (with content search) in under the umbrella of freedesktop.org, but that's off-topic here. What other tools have you seen out there? Discuss away! -- -jeff

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rawhide report: 20041105 changes
by Build System 05 Nov '04

05 Nov '04

Updated Packages: rpmdb-fedora-3-0.20041105 -------------------------

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FC3 PPC development tree / installing FC3 on ibook2001 + B&W PowerMacG3
by Markus Nicolussi 05 Nov '04

05 Nov '04

Hello! i sucked the ppc-devel-tree to my hd, set up a NFS server for the downloaded files and burned boot.iso from the dir "mac". The boot cd booted but it found no network device, and i don't know how to set up the module-parameters which it's maybe requesting... all i know i took from the HOWTO at http://www.bytebot.net/geekdocs/ibook/fedorappc.html I couldn't by all efforts find more about this topic in the net... in this HOWTO it says that one schould use the "sungem" driver for the internal network device, but this doesn't help (maybe this tip applies only for ibookG4s?) Does anybody have experience with this topic and could give me a hint? Thanks in advance caio, nico. -- NEU +++ DSL Komplett von GMX +++ http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl GMX DSL-Netzanschluss + Tarif zum superg�nstigen Komplett-Preis!

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gnome 2.9
by Patricio Bruna V 05 Nov '04

05 Nov '04

would gnome 2.9 be available for fc3 or fedora devel? -- Patricio Bruna http://www.linuxcenterla.com Ingeniero de Proyectos Canada # 239 Piso 5 Red Hat Certified Engineer Providencia, Santiago - CHILE Linux Center Latinoamerica Fono: +56 2 2745000, Fax : +56 22747075

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