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rawhide report: 20061125 changes
by Build System 25 Nov '06

25 Nov '06

New package iprutils Utilities for the IBM Power Linux RAID adapters New package librtas Libraries to provide access to RTAS calls and RTAS events. New package ppc64-utils Linux/PPC64 specific utilities New package yaboot Linux bootloader for Power Macintosh "New World" computers. Updated Packages: autofs-1:5.0.1-0.rc2.26 ----------------------- * Sat Nov 25 2006 Ian Kent <ikent(a)redhat.com> - 5.0.1-0.rc2.26 - fix parsing of bad mount mount point in master map (bz 215620). - fix use after free memory access in cache.c and lookup_yp.c (bz 208091). - eliminate use of pthread_kill to detect task completion (bz 208091). coreutils-5.97-16.fc7 --------------------- * Fri Nov 24 2006 Tim Waugh <twaugh(a)redhat.com> 5.97-16 - Unbreak id (bug #217177). eclipse-1:3.2.1-22.fc7 ---------------------- * Mon Nov 20 2006 Andrew Overholt <overholt(a)redhat.com> 3.2.1-22 - Use ~/.eclipseplugins instead of ~/.eclipse in update site - homedir patch. - Bump release. gtk2-2.10.6-6.fc7 ----------------- * Sat Nov 25 2006 Matthias Clasen <mclasen(a)redhat.com> - 2.10.6-6 - Fix a recent-files related crash openoffice.org-1:2.1.0-5.1 -------------------------- * Thu Nov 23 2006 Caolan McNamara <caolanm(a)redhat.com> - 1:2.1.0-5.1 - next one - Resolves: rhbz#217047 i.e. replace openoffice.org-2.0.4.ooo.vcl.im_yield.patch with openoffice.org-2.0.4.ooo69992.sw.syncbackspace.patch policycoreutils-1.33.4-2.fc7 ---------------------------- * Fri Nov 24 2006 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 1.33.4-2 - Additional po changes - Added all booleans definitions system-config-language-1.1.16-1.fc7 ----------------------------------- * Wed Nov 22 2006 Paul Nasrat <pnasrat(a)redhat.com> - 1.1.16-1 - Update translations (#216093) * Thu Nov 16 2006 Paul Nasrat <pnasrat(a)redhat.com> - 1.1.15-1 - Use correct Norwegian language (#209438) - Fix traceback in text mode (#215319) - Update potfile * Fri Oct 20 2006 Paul Nasrat <pnasrat(a)redhat.com> - 1.1.14-1 - Fix typos (#211434) tzdata-2006o-2.fc7 ------------------ * Wed Nov 22 2006 Petr Machata <pmachata(a)redhat.com> - 2006o-2 - Patch for Western Australia DST trial Broken deps for s390 ---------------------------------------------------------- systemtap - 0.5.10-1.fc7.s390 requires kernel >= 0:2.6.9-11 systemtap-runtime - 0.5.10-1.fc7.s390 requires kernel >= 0:2.6.9-11

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Coding system of %doc file
by Laurent Rineau 24 Nov '06

24 Nov '06

Some usual doc files, like AUTHORS, use accented characters. The packaging guidelines do not tell anything about the coding of those files. rpmlint used to signal non-utf-8 files, but my version rpmlint-0.78-2.fc5 no longer do. Is there a policy?

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Reducing Fedora memory footprint?
by Pekka Savola 24 Nov '06

24 Nov '06

Hi, I'd like to reduce the memory footprint of FC6. Are there already webpages that describe how to make Fedora more manageable on those 3-4 year old "junk hardware"? (Some also have worried about the disk space footprint, but let's leave that out of scope for now..) I think we have a problem if FC6 can't run properly on IBM ThinkPad X30 w/ P3/1200 and 256 MB of memory. I think the main bottlenecks are the amount of memory, relatively slow disks, and swapping on those relatively slow disks. A couple of observations: 1) with RHL73 (w/ fvwm2), the battery lasted for 3.5-4.5 hours. With FC5 or FC6 (with xfce), it lasts for 1.5 hours, even if the computer is "idle". Either ACPI is a lot worse than APM, or something is going on. Any ideas how to debug this? 2) yum upgrade from FC5 to FC6 (about 1100 packages) took 8 hours (just the depsolving, upgrade and cleanup -- all packages and headers already existed on local disk). Only yum and Xorg were running at that time. 3) are there more light-weight desktops/WMs than xfce? Recently, it seems it also has become bloated, e.g.,: psavola 2644 0.0 3.3 72840 8292 ? Ss Nov21 0:07 xfce-mcs-manager psavola 2650 0.0 3.7 76792 9140 ? S Nov21 0:31 /usr/bin/xfce4-panel psavola 2654 0.0 3.1 68484 7844 ? S Nov21 0:02 /usr/libexec/xfce4/panel-plugins/xfce4-menu-plugin [...] psavola 2745 0.2 3.2 82388 7964 ? S Nov21 1:49 /usr/libexec/xfce4/panel-plugins/xfce4-battery-plugin [...] and: $ ldd /usr/libexec/xfce4/panel-plugins/xfce4-battery-plugin linux-gate.so.1 => (0x00117000) libxfce4panel.so.1 => /usr/lib/libxfce4panel.so.1 (0x005c4000) libxfcegui4.so.4 => /usr/lib/libxfcegui4.so.4 (0x003d4000) libxfce4util.so.4 => /usr/lib/libxfce4util.so.4 (0x00435000) libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 (0x006fc000) libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 (0x00118000) libatk-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libatk-1.0.so.0 (0x001a5000) libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 (0x00368000) libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x0050f000) libpangocairo-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0 (0x001c1000) libpango-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpango-1.0.so.0 (0x00f1e000) libcairo.so.2 => /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2 (0x001ca000) libgobject-2.0.so.0 => /lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 (0x00236000) libgmodule-2.0.so.0 => /lib/libgmodule-2.0.so.0 (0x00dbb000) libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x00110000) libglib-2.0.so.0 => /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0x00275000) libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x00a94000) libSM.so.6 => /usr/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x00313000) libICE.so.6 => /usr/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x0031c000) libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x005da000) libfontconfig.so.1 => /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 (0x00336000) libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x0037f000) libXrender.so.1 => /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1 (0x00eea000) libXinerama.so.1 => /usr/lib/libXinerama.so.1 (0x00d04000) libXi.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXi.so.6 (0x00e99000) libXrandr.so.2 => /usr/lib/libXrandr.so.2 (0x00d55000) libXcursor.so.1 => /usr/lib/libXcursor.so.1 (0x0038f000) libXfixes.so.3 => /usr/lib/libXfixes.so.3 (0x00da6000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x006e1000) libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 (0x00bdd000) libfreetype.so.6 => /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 (0x00444000) libz.so.1 => /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x00399000) libpng12.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0 (0x003ac000) librt.so.1 => /lib/librt.so.1 (0x00423000) libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXau.so.6 (0x00d4e000) libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 (0x00df0000) libexpat.so.0 => /lib/libexpat.so.0 (0x004d3000) libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x00c39000) Something is wrong when when a simple battery plugin takes 80 MB of memory.. -- Pekka Savola "You each name yourselves king, yet the Netcore Oy kingdom bleeds." Systems. Networks. Security. -- George R.R. Martin: A Clash of Kings

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Re: Testing Fedora - small (?) suggestion.
by Joachim Frieben 24 Nov '06

24 Nov '06

> In fact, for this next development cycle, I'd like to > change how the boot.iso and such work for rawhide, in that it doesn't > KNOW about any packages, rather it just has core and extras as > preselected remote repositories. This way you can use a good > combination of kernel and anaconda to install day after day after day, > and rawhide becomes nothing more than a createrepo call. After previous successful attempts with "FC6" and out-of-sync "rawhide" rescue CDs, I have now even managed to install current "rawhide" by using the "http" install option of the original "FC5" (!) install media which is good news for people plagued by "anaconda" issues [except for very recent hardware] and also allows to lower consumption of CD media for installing "rawhide" systems :) I think the switch to the "yum" based install system with "FC5" was a huge improvement!

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Todays Rawhide Compose
by Paul Nasrat 24 Nov '06

24 Nov '06

There seems to have been an issue with today's rawhide compose. It's been escalated, but as it's a US holiday it may not land today. Apologies for any inconvenience Paul

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Help improving translation
by Thomas Canniot 24 Nov '06

24 Nov '06

Hello, First, I apologise to fedora-trans-list to mail this message again. I have been translating fedora in French for few months only and i'm facing problems with contributors' translations. I used to translate po files, and, as we were very few French translators (2 *only*), it was quite easy to ask for the mate to read over the translation and to know what he is actually doing. However, now that I have less free time and now that we are more than 2 translating Fedora into French, when I take the initiative to translate 2 or 3 missing or recently added strings, I met bad translation and mistakes. There are few problems in our translation process : - People are not communicating by mailing list. The fact is that translation is often seen as a lonely activity and that you don't need any response from someone to take a po file and translate it. There is no way to know who is working on what. - The status page [1] are useful to know what has been translated, but useless to know what has been read over. - People do not use the reservation system "take" button and if they do, they don't update they reservation. What I'm planning to do : take every po file, and read over them until FC7 comes out. This is the only way I found to avoid bad translation in Fedora. Any advice to help out ? As we are changing lots of things on Fedora, wouldn't be the time to improve the translation process : - we shouldn't give anymore rights to upload CVS translation. CVS should only be accessible in read only and only people that read translation over should be allowed to update po to the CVS. - as there is mailing list for modifications on CVS docs, we need a mailing list as well for each language po modification. Mailing list are easy to set up and do not consume any ressources. - we could also use a system allowing to add a status of what has to be done with a po file : "waiting for translation", "waiting for being read over", "translation in progress" for example, are status that could be used. just my 2 cents. [1] http://i18n.redhat.com/cgi-bin/i18n-status -- Thomas Canniot http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot

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Fedora on a Norhtec MicroClient Jr. [Was: Reducing Fedora memory footprint?]
by Gianluca Sforna 23 Nov '06

23 Nov '06

Talking about small footprint, does anyone tried to install fedora on something like the MicroClient Jr.? http://www.norhtec.com/products/mcjr/index.html it has only 128Mb of RAM but but I could imagine a lot of applications for it at home once fedora will be up and running...

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update from fc 5 -> 6 thinkpad t23 savage, dri is disabled
by Jörn Rink 23 Nov '06

23 Nov '06

Hi, i have updated my laptop successfully from fc 5 to fc6. Now i have 2 problems, which i cannot bring together at this moment. The first problem is, that i can open a wine program with a user only once, the second time the screen will not openened. Further investigations shows, that glxgears is starting, but only shows a black window. Googling arround, brings me a thread, where one guy has this problem in september, which is solved in the savage driver for x11. I take a look at the X.log file, and there i can see: (II) SAVAGE(0): [drm] DRM interface version 1.0 (II) SAVAGE(0): [drm] drmSetBusid failed (7, pci:0000:01:00.0), Permission denied (EE) SAVAGE(0): [drm] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI. (EE) SAVAGE(0): DRI isn't enabled So, where should i open a bug report? Here? in x11? Anyonelse here with the wine problem? I have 3 boxes with fc6, 2 are running wine (notes 6.5 and 7.x) fine here, only the t23 makes problems. I have deinstalled all devel pakets and reinstalled them, compiling wine once again, nothing helps. On fc5 i had no problems with wine on the t23. sry when this is the false plattform.

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rawhide report: 20061123 changes
by Build System 23 Nov '06

23 Nov '06

Updated Packages: ImageMagick-6.2.8.0-3.fc6.1 --------------------------- * Wed Nov 15 2006 Norm Murray <nmurray(a)redhat.com> - 6.2.8.0-3.fc6.1 - fix more overflows (#210921, CVE-2006-5456) beagle-0.2.13-1.fc7 ------------------- * Wed Nov 22 2006 Alexander Larsson <alexl(a)redhat.com> - 0.2.13-1 - Update to 0.2.13 - Enable wv1 (word) support - Update key patch cadaver-0.22.3-5 ---------------- * Wed Nov 22 2006 Joe Orton <jorton(a)redhat.com> 0.22.3-5 - rebuild cairo-1.3.4-1.fc7 ----------------- * Thu Nov 23 2006 Matthias Clasen <mclasen(a)redhat.com> 1.3.4-1 - Update to 1.3.4 * Wed Nov 15 2006 Carl Worth <cworth(a)redhat.com> 1.3.2-1 - Update to 1.3.2 * Sun Nov 05 2006 Matthias Clasen <mclasen(a)redhat.com> 1.2.6-1 - Update to 1.2.6 compiz-0.3.4-1.fc7 ------------------ * Thu Nov 23 2006 Matthias Clasen <mclasen(a)redhat.com> - 0.3.4-1 - Update to 0.3.4 cups-1:1.2.7-4.fc7 ------------------ * Wed Nov 22 2006 Tim Waugh <twaugh(a)redhat.com> 1:1.2.7-4 - Another LSPP fix (bug #216669). - Fixed LSPP SELinux check (bug #216855). - Increased PPD timeout in copy_model() (bug #216065). dhcp-12:3.0.5-7.fc7 ------------------- * Wed Nov 22 2006 Peter Jones <pjones(a)redhat.com> - 12:3.0.5-7 - Build the MD5 functions we link against. gettext-0.16-1.fc7 ------------------ * Thu Nov 23 2006 Jens Petersen <petersen(a)redhat.com> - 0.16-1 - update to 0.16 release - disable openmp on ia64 (#216988) gnome-session-2.17.2-4.fc7 -------------------------- * Wed Nov 22 2006 Matthias Clasen <mclasen(a)redhat.com> - 2.17.2-4 - Own the /usr/share/gnome/wm-properties directory (#216514) grep-2.5.1-56.fc7 ----------------- * Wed Nov 22 2006 Tim Waugh <twaugh(a)redhat.com> 2.5.1-56 - Fixed count of patterns when the last is an empty string (bug #204255). * Wed Nov 22 2006 Tim Waugh <twaugh(a)redhat.com> 2.5.1-55 - Fix 'memory exhausted' errors by limiting in-memory buffer (bug #198165). gzip-1.3.5-11.fc7 ----------------- * Wed Nov 22 2006 Ivana Varekova <varekova(a)redhat.com> - 1.3.5-11 - fix too strict uncompress function hwbrowser-0.29-1.fc7 -------------------- * Wed Nov 22 2006 Nils Philippsen <nphilipp(a)redhat.com> - 0.29 - recognize ATA-, SATA-controllers, be more gracious about unknown device classes (#216714) less-394-6.fc7 -------------- * Wed Nov 22 2006 Ivana Varekova <varekova redhat com> - 394-6 - fix permissions of debuginfo source code nautilus-2.16.2-7.fc7 --------------------- * Wed Nov 22 2006 Alexander Larsson <alexl(a)redhat.com> - 2.16.2-7 - Look for beagle before tracker, because tracker autostarts This lets us support having both installed at the same time. - Remove buildreqs for beagle, as they are not necessary with the dynamic work. ntp-4.2.2p4-2.fc7 ----------------- * Wed Nov 22 2006 Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar(a)redhat.com> 4.2.2p4-2 - pass additional options to ntpdate (#202204) policycoreutils-1.33.4-1.fc7 ---------------------------- * Wed Nov 22 2006 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> 1.33.4-1 - Upstream accepted my patches * Merged setsebool patch from Karl MacMillan. This fixes a bug reported by Yuichi Nakamura with always setting booleans persistently on an unmanaged system. rsync-2.6.9-1 ------------- * Wed Nov 22 2006 Florian La Roche <laroche(a)redhat.com> - 2.6.9-1 - update to 2.6.9 scim-bridge-0.4.8-1.fc7 ----------------------- * Thu Nov 23 2006 Jens Petersen <petersen(a)redhat.com> - 0.4.8-1 - update to 0.4.8 - add scim-bridge-0.4.8-qt-moc-path.patch to set full path to moc and scim-bridge-0.4.8-tests-dir-missing.patch to allow rebootstrap scim-pinyin-0.5.91-16.fc7 ------------------------- * Thu Nov 23 2006 Shawn Huang <phuang(a)redhat.com> - 0.5.91-16 - add Obsoletes: miniChinput <= 0.3 to remove miniChinput when upgrading from RHEL4 (#211878). * Thu Nov 23 2006 Shawn Huang <phuang(a)redhat.com> - 0.5.91-15 - update all .po files for all languages. setroubleshoot-1.7-1.fc7 ------------------------ * Tue Nov 21 2006 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> - 1.7-1 * Add command line utilities * logfile scanning finally seems to work connected to browser * Additional Information section of report now includes line number information (if alert was generated from logfile) * replace database update_callback() with notify interface, a more generic solution more easily shared between components * object implementing rpc method is now explicitly attached via connect_rpc_interface() instead of walking the MRO chain with magic exclusions. explicitly connecting is more flexible and robust (no getting the wrong object by mistake) * fix handling of return args in local rpc case * fix signal connections between audit and logfile * split databae and database_properties for audit and logfile * fix initial connection state * fix lookup_local_id * Wed Nov 08 2006 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> - 1.5-1 - Speed up startup of service * Mon Nov 06 2006 Dan Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> - 1.4-1 - Many fixes - Changed the api sysklogd-1.4.1-40.fc7 --------------------- * Wed Nov 22 2006 Peter Vrabec <pvrabec(a)redhat.com> 1.4.1-40 - add IPv6 support util-linux-2.13-0.45.1.fc6 -------------------------- * Wed Nov 22 2006 Karel Zak <kzak(a)redhat.com> 2.13-0.45.1 - fix #216760 - mount with context or fscontext option fails (temporarily disabled the support for additional contexts -- not supported by kernel yet) vim-2:7.0.168-1 --------------- * Wed Nov 22 2006 Karsten Hopp <karsten(a)redhat.com> 7.0.168-1 - patchlevel 168 - link with ncurses Broken deps for s390 ---------------------------------------------------------- systemtap - 0.5.10-1.fc7.s390 requires kernel >= 0:2.6.9-11 systemtap-runtime - 0.5.10-1.fc7.s390 requires kernel >= 0:2.6.9-11

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Core + Exrtas 2
by Hans de Goede 22 Nov '06

22 Nov '06

Hi, Now that the discussion on this is getting started allow me to chime in with my 2 euro cents: In general I like the proposal which can be found here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraSummit/ReleaseProcess I've got 2 questions though: 1) I think there should be a procedure to skip update-testing, this will ofcourse be needed for security fixes, but also for trivial correct (and somewhat important) fixes and to fix brownpaper bag bugs. 2) What about new packages? FE is growing almost daily. One of the huge advantages of the current model is that people can get access to new packages within a stable cycle. I like the whole do not update unless there is a good reason model to give people more stability, but most new packages will not hurt stability of existing packages, and will have 100% impact on our users unless they specificly instruct yum to install the new package. There will ofcourse be exceptions, but as a general rule of thumb I think it should be normal procedure for new packages to enter the stable branch so that all our users can benefit from them (not only those running devel) and so that all our users can test them. Remember, release early release often. I think we should do this entering through updates-testing so that we can catch any last minute bugs. Regards, Hans

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