[EPEL] EPEL -- the way forward
by Thorsten Leemhuis
Hi all!
The idea to build Fedora (Extras) Packages for RHEL and compatible
distros like CentOS in the scope of the Fedora Project is over half a
year old now, but didn't really take of yet. This mail (and some other
work in other places like the wiki) tries to actually get the idea
running a bit more faster now in the hope that the project actually
takes of soon.
So what needs to be done:
- actually discuss the way forward with contributors and get some
feedback of potential users and contributors -- done in parts now that
you read the mail, as this is one of the purposes why it was written ;-)
- find the final name -- done already, there was (still|once again) some
discussion to use a different name for the Project. It was agreed
(agreed=no one did yell until now) on by certain EPEL SIG members that
we use a slightly variant of what was used until now -- e.g. instead of
"Extras Packages for Enterprise Linux" we'll use "(Fedora) Extra
Packages for Enterprise Linux" (note: Extra and not Extra*s*) and will
stick to EPEL as FLA (four letter acronym).
- update the wiki and put some useful and crucial informations into it
-- done mostly already. See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL for the
current state. Some stuff will probably be added depending on what this
discussion brings up. Note that there are quite more informations in
the wiki (including a FAQ) then this mail contains. Also note that
everything in the wiki is still under discussion and might change.
- create a fully functional SIG (see
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/SIG ) that takes care of EPEL, meets
on IRC regularly and make sure things are moving forward. In progress
already. Want to join? Simply add your name to the SIG list in the wiki.
- create a "EPEL Release Manager group", that together with the package
owners is actually responsible for the EL repo. They step up if
maintainers don't react in time to fix stuff like security fixes, broken
deps and similar issues that create problems for our userbase.
- allow all Extras contributors to maintain their packages in EPEL, if
they want to and are aware of the consequences; means:
-- the package needs to be supported until the End Of Life (EOL) of the
Distributions they were build for -- round about seven years. Sure,
nobody of us knows if he still be around then. But you should not build
packages for EPEL if you plan to moe oer to other stuff soon or find
packaging really annoying
-- realize that the rules in EPEL are stricter -- if you don't keep
track of you package properly someone from the "EPEL Release Manager
group" might just fix your package. If that happens multiple times the
package might get hand over to somebody else, if that the best for the
repo as a whole
- find a kind of update and release policy. See
http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/EnterpriseExtras/FAQ#head-e5ac329823844...
; proposed is to have a kind of rolling release, but with a careful and
strict update policy where only stuff that really needs a update for a
good reasons gets done. Updating to the latest and greatest version is
not possible quite often in any case, as a lot of newer packages will
depend on new versions of certain core-libs (say gtk, qt, and a lot of
others), which we in quite a lot of cases simply won't have available
when the distribution we support is 12 months or older. So why update
parts to the latest and greatest while keeping other parts on older
ersions and having a distro as a base that people are paying for because
it doesn't change
- actually start building the repo up with packages people want to
maintain and the most important packages from Fedora Extras. Maybe we
get some very rough stats from the Fedora Extras repository servers to
actually have a rough idea of which packages are popular, so we get them
build for EPEL soon and from the beginning. Ask the Fedora package
maintainers if they want to maintain them in EPEL -- if not try to find
another maintainer for EPEL quickly (the people interested in EPEL
probably might have to take care of a lot of packages in the beginning).
- get the inital batch of important and popular packages online into a
testing channel until end of march
- Make sure we have a group of people watching the usual security lists
and file bugs for open issues.
- and move them to a proper channel after some weeks if everything seems
to work.
- In parallel try to the second batch try to get all the other Fedora
packages into EPEL, but leave the "obscure" stuff out of it.
- EL-4 branches will get created from the FE-3 branch, EL-5 packages
from the FC-6 branch
I probably missed a lot of stuff. But that's why I wrote this mail, so
you can tell me and the other members of the EPEL Sig what we missed so
we can actually take care of it.
Your interested to help? Then join the SIG by adding your name to the
EPEL-SIG page in the wiki and join us in the first meeting -- that's
scheduled for Sunday, the 25th at 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting on the
freenode network. The mailing list for further discussions around EPEL
will be fedora-devel-list (this list); please use the tag [EPEL] in the
subject so people that are not interested in the other stuff from
fedora-devel-list can filter for it. Thanks in advance.
Cu
thl
17 years, 2 months
Re: [Mandrakeot] ESR gives up on Fedora
by Lyvim Xaphir
On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 22:56 +0100, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
> Due to my lousy English - "Danglish" - I referred to the (K)ubuntu
> install, not FC6 (Where I actually lurked on the ML some months
> before installing it so I avoided the LVM and SELinux stuff). The
> default (K)ubuntu install is open source only, if someone want the
> proprietary stuff further repos must be enabled, just like FC.
>
> Mark Shuttleworth has some remarks on non-free drivers here :
>
> http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/95
>
> I was a bit surprised when the (K)ubuntu installed an ATI driver all
> by itself, but it seems that the driver (UTAH) is open source as
> well.
>
> Kaj.
There needs to be a balance between the right of individuals to own
their own property (specifically in our realm of discussion,
intellectual property) and the right of individuals to control the
source to the operating system they run. Currently the trend with the
Cox's of the world is to abolish the rights of companies and individuals
to protect their own intellectual property rights; at any cost. The
plain simple definition of socialism is the abolition of personal
property to another jurisdiction other than the true owner of that
personal property; be that a dictator or a government, or a group of
socio-fascist developers. In this case, the developers seek to take the
decision about intellectual property rights OUT of the public domain
(the "Market") and to FORCIBLY TAKE AWAY the right of the company or
individual to license driver-code the way the code authors see fit.
This is not "freedom", it is in reality a form of slavery.
The way they seek to accomplish this is by writing the kernel so that
it will reject any module that it (the kernel) perceives as NOT open
source. This is not a technical task, it is an ideological task. The
problem I have and that I have always had is that ideological decisions
are the domain of the USER, NOT THE KERNEL. Furthermore, and more to
the point, ideological decisions are the purview of the USER and NOT THE
DEVELOPERS. The kernel is and has always been a product of technical
merit (which was freely given, as opposed to forcibly taken); the
ideologues in the developer community seek to slave the kernel itself to
their own personal ideological goals.
THAT is where the line is being crossed; THAT is the abhorrent
corruption we are faced with. The developers have no rights to other
people's intellectual property rights or software licensing decisions,
OR the JURISDICTION THEREOF; yet in face of that fact they seek to
forcibly TAKE or CONTROL what is not theirs by *force*. How? Because
since they control the kernel, they essentially have monopoly power over
the Linux operating system. They are currently abusing that leverage to
execute forced licensing upon any developer that writes driver code. No
longer is the programmer the arbiter of the license of his own work. The
use of such a monopoly power for ideological ends is force and is
therefore by definition fascism. Fascism is nothing less than an
advanced aspect of socialism; the same is true of communism. Both
fascism and communism are *consequences* of socialism. In the linux
world today we are now seeing both consequences manifest themselves in
the religious fanatic RMS sectors of the community.
The ONLY thing that has stopped this process.....and I do mean the
ONLY thing, is Linus Torvalds. He has made it clear that the Linux
kernel will NOT be turned into an ideological tool (but even as he has
made this clear, the offending messages remain entrenched in the kernel
right now as we speak, running prospective developers away and causing
many developers to question the domain of Linux as being anything near
fruitful). For this he has suffered much criticism and hate mail. In
the same regard, ESR has suffered much criticism and hate mail. This is
the modern rendition of the medieval persecution of the Jews by the
Flagellants during the Black Plague. We have the religious fanatics,
and we have the innocent heros, deprived of justice. The only difference
is that instead of maniacal religious zealots beating themselves with
chains and murdering Jews, we have the present day maniacal religious
Stallman nose pickers, and instead of the Jews we have Torvalds, ESR,
and those of us with sufficient testosterone to support their cause.
LX
--
°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°
A Kernel Of Socialism
greatunwashed: module license 'great_unwashed' taints kernel.
ich: no version for "unwashed_register_device" found: kernel tainted.
Symbol usb_register_driver is being used by a non-GPL module,
which will not be allowed in the future
Please see the file Documentation/feature-removal-schedule.txt
in the kernel source tree for more details.
°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°
17 years, 2 months
[karsten@redhat.com: rpmdiff Resultate]
by Florian La Roche
Hello all,
This is a check where we do an "everything"-install and rebuild
all packages. All newly built packages are compared against currently
existing packages. Newly picked up deps can be due to newer libs
or also point at missing BuildRequires. Missing build deps could also
point at regressions compared to pre-mock buildroots which are as small
as possible.
Many such cases have already been cleaned up in the past, so the
list isn't too long anymore.
regards,
Florian La Roche
----- Forwarded message from Karsten Hopp <karsten(a)redhat.com> -----
From: Karsten Hopp <karsten(a)redhat.com>
Subject: rpmdiff Resultate
To: florian.laroche(a)redhat.de
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:04:28 +0100
Hier sind die aktuellen Ergebnisse eines rpmdiffs zwischen brew-Paketen und
Paketen, die in einer
Komplettinstallation gebaut wurden:
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added REQUIRES libpython2.5.so.1.0
#################################
sane-frontends-1.0.14-1.2.2.i386.rpm
added REQUIRES libexif.so.12
added REQUIRES libpng12.so.0
#################################
sharutils-4.6.1-2.i386.rpm
removed /usr/bin/compress-dummy
#################################
telnet-0.17-37.i386.rpm
added REQUIRES libtinfo.so.5
#################################
tftp-0.42-4.i386.rpm
added REQUIRES libreadline.so.5
added REQUIRES libtermcap.so.2
#################################
timidity++-2.13.2-1.2.2.i386.rpm
added REQUIRES libX11.so.6
added REQUIRES librt.so.1
added REQUIRES libslang.so.2
added REQUIRES libslang.so.2(SLANG2)
added REQUIRES libtinfo.so.5
#################################
usermode-gtk-1.87-3.i386.rpm
removed REQUIRES libz.so.1
added REQUIRES libpng12.so.0
added REQUIRES libstartup-notification-1.so.0
added REQUIRES libwnck-1.so.18
#################################
valgrind-3.2.3-2.i386.rpm
added REQUIRES libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1.3)
added REQUIRES libdl.so.2
added REQUIRES libmpi.so.0
added REQUIRES libnsl.so.1
added REQUIRES libopal.so.0
added REQUIRES liborte.so.0
added REQUIRES libpthread.so.0
added REQUIRES libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.0)
added REQUIRES libutil.so.1
added PROVIDES libmpiwrap.so
added /usr/lib/valgrind/x86-linux/libmpiwrap.so
#################################
xalan-j2-2.7.0-6jpp.1.i386.rpm
added REQUIRES libm.so.6(GLIBC_2.0)
#################################
xcdroast-0.98a15-12.2.2.i386.rpm
added REQUIRES libpng12.so.0
#################################
xerces-j2-2.7.1-7jpp.2.i386.rpm
added REQUIRES libgcc_s.so.1(GLIBC_2.0)
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17 years, 2 months
HP500 notebook synaptics touchpad not recognized and fix
by Alexandru Ciobanu
On my HP500 notebook the synaptics touchpad is not recognized by neither
FC6 nor FC7t1. The error is:
PNP: PS/2 Controller [PNP0303:C1A4,PNP0f13:C1A5] at 0x60,0x64 irq 1,12
Failed to disable AUX port, but continuing anyway... Is this a SiS?
If AUX port is really absent please use the 'i8042.noaux' option.
After some googleing around I've found that the PNP PS/2 detection
routine in drivers/input/serio/i8042.c from the kernel tree is
responsible of this.
I've found a hint on a Gentoo forum, made a kernel patch [patch
attached] and build a custom kernel, which fixed my touchpad issue.
I'm new in the "RedHat Bugzilla land" and I'm not a kernel hacker nor an
C/C++ developer, hence my question:
Should I bugzilla this?
17 years, 2 months
Re: [Mandrakeot] ESR gives up on Fedora
by Avi Kivity
Leszek Matok wrote:
> Dnia 26-02-2007, pon o godzinie 21:42 +0200, Avi Kivity napisał(a):
>
>> The light bulb makers used their own brains to invent something new,
>> without stealing the candlemaker's bright ideas.
>>
> No, it's the same idea - an idea that we can make light when it's dark.
> It's only a difference in implementation. If you don't get that, think
> about the invention of CFL when there are already light bulbs.
>
>
CFL is a new idea. A better one, too.
I don't think the inventor of the lightbulb was granted a patent on
light, or even artificial light. Just a way of producing light by
applying current to a metal filament which heats and emits light.
>> That's called
>> progress. The bicycle cloners invented nothing
>>
> It's hard to clone something. They would rather make their own
> implementation of an idea. In order to sell their bicycles they would
> have to make it better in some way. We'd get bicycles that are
> cheaper/better/lighter/whatever than original. _That's_ called progress.
> It's also called competition, which is good for the consumer.
Right, so write your own code/film your own movie/record your own song.
That's competition and that's good for the consumers. Copying someone
elses code is _not_ competition.
Allowing people to copy music/movies/non-free software and redistribute
it is not competition.
> You, on
> the other hand, are advocating monopolies.
>
>
Certainly not. You want to compete with my bicycle rental business,
design and build your own bikes, may the best cycle win.
I _am_ advocating that you can have a monopoly on your own creation, but
not that you can prevent someone else from creating.
>> (except the cloning
>> machine; they could be rich unless someone cloned _that_)
>>
> Yeah, yeah. Whenever someone clones the real clone machine (that can
> clone anything) and starts to sell that, next day there will be no
> famine in the world. But you say it's bad for mankind to clone things.
>
>
Let's drop the cloning machine thing. It's too far-fetched to make good
analogies.
I hope we don't have a cloning machine as it's most likely we'll be gone
soon afterwards.
>> you can probably appreciate
>> the amount of effort that goes into producing software. That effort
>> has
>> value. Allowing anyone to copy it reduces that value.
>>
> How many times did you buy a program that had 1000 functions, but you
> needed it for just one?
Well, I use open source software, so I rarely have pay for it. I did
pay Red Hat back in the 9 days to get updates, because I appreciated the
effort that went into those updates. I also pay for my LWN
subscription. Sure, downloading the articles somehow wouldn't take them
away from them, but I wouldn't do it even if I could.
> Is the program worth $1000 for you? No. But hey,
> the idea of that one function is patented and no one can write a simple
> program doing just that.
>
I oppose software patents, at least as currently abused. I think a
better solution is trade secrets, but I admit that I haven't given it
much thought.
> I fully understand that making The Big Program took 10 years of work for
> 100 programmers. But don't make me pay for things I don't need.
>
>
I'm with you on that. But that doesn't mean you can freely copy the
$1000 program, just because you want to use part of the functionality.
> Again, there's also the monopoly behind such program which idea can't be
> copied. The company will stop making any improvements because they
> already know you will pay anyhow and no one can make a better program
> anyhow.
>
If they stop making innovations, others will, and the customers will
switch to them.
> If you're so convinced that we have to protect ideas, because otherwise
> people will stop inventing things, make a software patent last 1 year.
> If the company can make a good product out of the brilliant idea, they
> can make billions during the year. Otherwise, don't stop the competition
> from doing it better.
>
>
That could work. The worst thing about software patents IMO is that
they make it impossible for small companies to write software without
infringing. The large ones are mostly cross-licensed, and they have the
pockets and patent portfolios to fight a patent war. And it's the small
companies that do the innovations.
> And please, think, what takes more time - thinking about a nice feature
> or actually implementing it?
>
Implementation, of course, but what has that to do with abolishing
copyright?
Copying non-free software (or movies, or songs) steals both the value of
the idea and the value of the implementation effort.
Free software is great, but it has to be voluntary. Forcing all
software to be free is wrong.
--
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to
panic.
17 years, 2 months
[ANNOUNCE]: FC6 ia64 ISOs available
by Prarit Bhargava
I've built a set of FC6 ia64 ISOs (CD set and DVD) which are available
for download from
ftp://oss.sgi.com/projects/fedora/
9aea82e31ace9ceb3e5aba210f4cda14 FC6GOLD-ia64-disc1.iso
c3b3dd2e4cc0e4c60e4589532e79b4b4 FC6GOLD-ia64-disc2.iso
093b5aa79be4cd9ab8aff6f743df9fec FC6GOLD-ia64-disc3.iso
f90baccedc2a1d5b1a0582649235691f FC6GOLD-ia64-disc4.iso
afcfa7f9d6b47b2f78107dcbcce63eef FC6GOLD-ia64-disc5.iso
88ad15a45ca9dad378636cf572f4be03 FC6GOLD-ia64-DVD.iso
(Click on Download on left-hand side, and then the FC6 directory)
These are labelled as FC6GOLD to differentiate them from the broken sets
that Yanmin attempted to release last week. md5sums are provided.
We have verified CD, DVD, NFS, http, ftp installs on various HP & SGI boxes.
Please remember that FC6 ia64 is _unsupported_ by Fedora. You can file
bugs, but be sure to file them against the devel branch of Fedora Core.
Also, add "fedora-ia64" to the "blocks" field of the BZ.
P.
17 years, 2 months
Slight slip of Fedora 7 Test 2
by Jesse Keating
We've ran into some kernel difficulties on PPC, some VNC issues, and more fun
with figuring out what to spin and how. As such we were not able to have a
tree ready on Friday for the mirrors to sync. We cannot release Tomorrow.
We expect to have a final tree done (late?) today to give to the mirrors for
a Thursday (March 1st) release.
--
Jesse Keating
Release Engineer: Fedora
17 years, 2 months
Extras x86_64 rawhide rebuild in mock status 2007-02-26
by Matt Domsch
Extras Rawhide-in-Mock Build Results for x86_64 Mon Feb 26 15:37:09 CST 2007
Full logs at http://linux.dell.com/files/fedora/FixBuildRequires/
Total packages: 2646
Number failed to build: 66
Number expected to fail due to ExclusiveArch or ExcludeArch: 20
Leaving: 46
(there may be some duplicates if rawhide has 2 versions of a package)
Of those expected to have worked...
Without a bug filed: 46
----------------------------------
R-RScaLAPACK-0.5.1-8.fc6 tcallawa(a)redhat.com
SIMVoleon-2.0.1-6.fc7 rc040203(a)freenet.de
SoQt-1.4.1-5.fc7 rc040203(a)freenet.de
airsnort-0.2.7e-11.fc7 andreas.bierfert(a)lowlatency.de
atitvout-0.4-6 andreas.bierfert(a)lowlatency.de
audacity-1.3.2-7.20070106cvs.fc7 gemi@bluewin.ch,bugs.michael(a)gmx.net
banshee-0.11.5-1.fc7 caillon(a)redhat.com
compat-erlang-R10B-10.4.fc6 gemi(a)bluewin.ch
conexusmm-0.4.0-5.fc6 rvinyard(a)cs.nmsu.edu
csound-5.03.0-9.fc7 dcbw@redhat.com,paul(a)all-the-johnsons.co.uk
em8300-kmod-0.16.0-10.2.6.20_1.2922.fc7 ville.skytta(a)iki.fi
fakeroot-1.5.10-13.fc7 Axel.Thimm(a)ATrpms.net
flumotion-0.2.1-3.fc6 thomas(a)apestaart.org
gift-0.11.8.1-6.fc7 rdieter(a)math.unl.edu
gnome-sudoku-0.5.0-1.fc6 stickster(a)gmail.com
gtk-sharp-1.0.10-12.fc7 paul(a)all-the-johnsons.co.uk
itcl-3.3-0.8.RC1.fc7 wart(a)kobold.org
itk-3.3-0.5.RC1.fc7 wart(a)kobold.org
jogl-1.0.0-5.7.beta5.fc6 green(a)redhat.com
kooldock-0.3-4.20060720cvs.fc6 mr.ecik(a)gmail.com
kyum-0.7.5-4.fc6 Jochen(a)herr-schmitt.de
libapreq2-2.09-0.rc2.1.fc7 bojan(a)rexursive.com
libpaper-1.1.20-5.fc6 tcallawa(a)redhat.com
libpolyxmass-0.9.0-6.fc5 andreas.bierfert(a)lowlatency.de
libreadline-java-0.8.0-13.fc6 ifoox(a)redhat.com
mlton-20061107-2.fc7 adam(a)spicenitz.org
nomadsync-0.4.2-13.fc6 triad(a)df.lth.se
openpbx-1.2-3.rc2.svn2135.fc7 dwmw2(a)redhat.com
orpie-1.4.3-5.fc6 lists(a)forevermore.net
paraview-2.4.4-3.fc6 orion(a)cora.nwra.com
php-extras-5.2.0-1.fc7 dmitry(a)butskoy.name
php-pecl-Fileinfo-1.0.4-1.fc7 fedora(a)theholbrooks.org
prewikka-0.9.8-1.fc7 tscherf(a)redhat.com
python-amara-1.1.9-7.fc7 jamatos(a)fc.up.pt
python-reportlab-2.0-2.fc7 bdpepple(a)ameritech.net
qa-assistant-0.4.90.5-2.fc6 toshio(a)tiki-lounge.com
s3switch-0.0-9.20020912.fc6 paul(a)xelerance.com
seahorse-0.8.1-2.fc6 skvidal(a)linux.duke.edu
steghide-0.5.1-2.fc6 Jochen(a)herr-schmitt.de
toped-0.8.2-2.fc6 cgoorah(a)yahoo.com.au
xca-0.5.1-6.fc6 enrico.scholz(a)informatik.tu-chemnitz.de
xfce4-wavelan-plugin-0.5.3-3.fc6 fedora(a)christoph-wickert.de
xmldiff-0.6.7-12.fc6 stickster(a)gmail.com
xosd-2.2.14-8.fc6 kevin(a)tummy.com
xsupplicant-1.2.8-1.fc7.1 tcallawa(a)redhat.com
zope-2.9.4-2.fc6 jonathansteffan(a)gmail.com
With bugs filed: 0
----------------------------------
--
Matt Domsch
Software Architect
Dell Linux Solutions linux.dell.com & www.dell.com/linux
Linux on Dell mailing lists @ http://lists.us.dell.com
17 years, 2 months
Extras i386 rawhide rebuild in mock status 2007-02-26
by Matt Domsch
Extras Rawhide-in-Mock Build Results for i386 Mon Feb 26 15:41:50 CST 2007
Full logs at http://linux.dell.com/files/fedora/FixBuildRequires/
Total packages: 2646
Number failed to build: 43
Number expected to fail due to ExclusiveArch or ExcludeArch: 2
Leaving: 41
(there may be some duplicates if rawhide has 2 versions of a package)
Of those expected to have worked...
Without a bug filed: 41
----------------------------------
R-RScaLAPACK-0.5.1-8.fc6 tcallawa(a)redhat.com
SIMVoleon-2.0.1-6.fc7 rc040203(a)freenet.de
SoQt-1.4.1-5.fc7 rc040203(a)freenet.de
airsnort-0.2.7e-11.fc7 andreas.bierfert(a)lowlatency.de
banshee-0.11.5-1.fc7 caillon(a)redhat.com
compat-erlang-R10B-10.4.fc6 gemi(a)bluewin.ch
conexusmm-0.4.0-5.fc6 rvinyard(a)cs.nmsu.edu
csound-5.03.0-9.fc7 dcbw@redhat.com,paul(a)all-the-johnsons.co.uk
em8300-kmod-0.16.0-10.2.6.20_1.2922.fc7 ville.skytta(a)iki.fi
fakeroot-1.5.10-13.fc7 Axel.Thimm(a)ATrpms.net
flumotion-0.2.1-3.fc6 thomas(a)apestaart.org
gift-0.11.8.1-6.fc7 rdieter(a)math.unl.edu
gnome-sudoku-0.5.0-1.fc6 stickster(a)gmail.com
gtk-sharp-1.0.10-12.fc7 paul(a)all-the-johnsons.co.uk
itcl-3.3-0.8.RC1.fc7 wart(a)kobold.org
itk-3.3-0.5.RC1.fc7 wart(a)kobold.org
jogl-1.0.0-5.7.beta5.fc6 green(a)redhat.com
kooldock-0.3-4.20060720cvs.fc6 mr.ecik(a)gmail.com
kyum-0.7.5-4.fc6 Jochen(a)herr-schmitt.de
libapreq2-2.09-0.rc2.1.fc7 bojan(a)rexursive.com
libpaper-1.1.20-5.fc6 tcallawa(a)redhat.com
libreadline-java-0.8.0-13.fc6 ifoox(a)redhat.com
nomadsync-0.4.2-13.fc6 triad(a)df.lth.se
octave-2.9.9-2.fc7 qspencer(a)ieee.org
openpbx-1.2-3.rc2.svn2135.fc7 dwmw2(a)redhat.com
orpie-1.4.3-5.fc6 lists(a)forevermore.net
paraview-2.4.4-3.fc6 orion(a)cora.nwra.com
php-extras-5.2.0-1.fc7 dmitry(a)butskoy.name
php-pecl-Fileinfo-1.0.4-1.fc7 fedora(a)theholbrooks.org
qa-assistant-0.4.90.5-2.fc6 toshio(a)tiki-lounge.com
seahorse-0.8.1-2.fc6 skvidal(a)linux.duke.edu
steghide-0.5.1-2.fc6 Jochen(a)herr-schmitt.de
sysprof-kmod-1.0.8-1.2.6.20_1.2932.fc7 giallu(a)gmail.com
toped-0.8.2-2.fc6 cgoorah(a)yahoo.com.au
wine-0.9.31-1.fc7 andreas.bierfert(a)lowlatency.de
xca-0.5.1-6.fc6 enrico.scholz(a)informatik.tu-chemnitz.de
xfce4-wavelan-plugin-0.5.3-3.fc6 fedora(a)christoph-wickert.de
xmldiff-0.6.7-12.fc6 stickster(a)gmail.com
xosd-2.2.14-8.fc6 kevin(a)tummy.com
xsupplicant-1.2.8-1.fc7.1 tcallawa(a)redhat.com
zope-2.9.4-2.fc6 jonathansteffan(a)gmail.com
With bugs filed: 0
----------------------------------
--
Matt Domsch
Software Architect
Dell Linux Solutions linux.dell.com & www.dell.com/linux
Linux on Dell mailing lists @ http://lists.us.dell.com
17 years, 2 months
Core i386 rawhide rebuild in mock status 2007-02-26
by Matt Domsch
Core Rawhide-in-Mock Build Results for i386 Mon Feb 26 15:30:05 CST 2007
Full logs at http://linux.dell.com/files/fedora/FixBuildRequires/
Total packages: 1157
Number failed to build: 42
Number expected to fail due to ExclusiveArch or ExcludeArch: 9
Leaving: 33
(there may be some duplicates if rawhide has 2 versions of a package)
Of those expected to have worked...
Without a bug filed: 33
----------------------------------
castor-0.9.5-1jpp.7
expect-5.43.0-8
g-wrap-1.9.6-7.1
gnome-media-2.17.91-1.fc7
gnome-sharp-2.16.0-1.fc6
gnucash-2.0.4-1.fc6
grub-0.97-13
icon-naming-utils-0.8.1-1.fc6
jgroups-2.2.9.2-3jpp.2
kasumi-2.0.1-1.1.fc6
kdnssd-avahi-0.1.3-0.1.20060713svn.fc6
libevent-1.2a-1
libgssapi-0.10-1
linux-atm-2.5.0-1.20050118cvs
mikmod-3.1.6-39.fc7
mysqlclient10-3.23.58-9.2.1
mysqlclient14-4.1.14-4.2.1
nfs-utils-lib-1.0.8-8.fc7
perl-5.8.8-12.fc7
ppc64-utils-0.11-1.fc7
prelink-0.3.10-1
readahead-1.3-6.fc6
scim-anthy-1.2.2-1.fc7
sgml-common-0.6.3-19
squirrelmail-1.4.8-4.fc6
struts-1.2.9-4jpp.2
systemtap-0.5.10-1.fc7
tetex-3.0-36.fc7
tk-8.4.13-4.fc7
tomcat5-5.5.17-6jpp.2
velocity-1.4-6jpp.1
w3m-0.5.1-15.fc6
xferstats-2.16-14.1
With bugs filed: 0
----------------------------------
--
Matt Domsch
Software Architect
Dell Linux Solutions linux.dell.com & www.dell.com/linux
Linux on Dell mailing lists @ http://lists.us.dell.com
17 years, 2 months
