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Orphaning Glade3
by Adam Miller 29 Jul '10

29 Jul '10

Hello all, I am orphaning Glade3, I don't use it at all anymore since I've transitioned to Qt4 for the most part. There are quite a few bugs open but a large portion of them are duplicates from abrt that I just never got around to triaging (hence the orphaning). There are three co-maintainers so I don't worry too much about the future of the package, I'm just not its best care taker these days. -AdamM -- http://maxamillion.googlepages.com --------------------------------------------------------- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments

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Call for Participation - Fedora 14 Talking Points
by Ryan Rix 29 Jul '10

29 Jul '10

Hello my Fedora friends! Talking points are key highlights of the new release. They should be compelling, but they will not necessarily be comprehensive. There are different types of talking points for different types of people: general desktop users/everyone, developers, and sysadmins. For the Fedora 14 cycle, we will also have talking points to address some of the Spins. They are meant to provide a short, effective answer to the question, "What cool stuff is in the latest release of Fedora?" Each cycle, the Marketing team compiles a short list of approximately three talking points for each of these audiences for the upcoming release. For Fedora 14, they're found here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_14_Talking_Points If you have a talking point that you feel meets the criteria found on the talking points SOP page at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talking_points_SOP, add it to the the table on the F14 page with supporting information. Please make your contributions and changes on the wiki page, so that the Marketing team can efficiently capture and consider your input. The Marketing team will make final adjustments to the list of talking points at their meeting on August 3, which will be announced on the marketing list and is open to everyone. If you are interested in attending the meeting, the agenda, location, and time details can be found at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_meetings. Following the meeting, the finalized list of talking points will be announced, and posted to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_14_Talking_Points. We welcome you to participate in the process! All the best! Ryan Rix -- Ryan Rix == http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://rix.si/ == == http://rix.si/page/contact/ if you need a word ==

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Fedora 14 Milestone Reached: Feature Freeze-2010-07-27
by John Poelstra 29 Jul '10

29 Jul '10

Yesterday, July 27, 2010, we reached Feature Freeze for Fedora 14 As previously noted, at Feature Freeze it is expected that all features are *significantly* "feature complete" and ready for testing: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Feature_Freeze_Policy. A review of the status section on the following feature pages shows that the following feature pages have not had a recent update OR the feature does not appear to be "feature complete" based on the information provided. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/CryptographyInKernel https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MultipathInstall (last updated in February) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/D_Programming https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MeeGo_1.0 (is this really feature complete if packages still need to be reviewed?) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Erlang_R14 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Gnome3 (listed at 55% done) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Spice https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Go_Programming https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/EC2 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/systemd Feature owners, please update your feature page as soon as possible so that we have the most current information possible going into our first test release. Feature pages which are not updated or show the feature as significantly complete or testable by 2010-08-02 will be sent to FESCo for reconsideration. Thank you, John p.s. all feature owners have been bcc'd on this email _______________________________________________ devel-announce mailing list devel-announce(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce

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Firefox 4 repo
by Mike Chambers 29 Jul '10

29 Jul '10

Anyone doing any builds of this during development and supplying a repo to download and install that way instead of source builds? Or is it too buggy to do at the moment? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!"

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Re: [HEADS-UP] systemd is now the default init system in rawhide
by goineasy9＠aol.com 28 Jul '10

28 Jul '10

Add init=/sbin/upstart to the end of the kernel line and it will boot up using upstart. Last lines in my boot read failing to load default.service and then failing to start default.service. -----Original Message----- From: darrell pfeifer <darrellpf(a)gmail.com> To: Development discussions related to Fedora <devel(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2010 5:59 pm Subject: Re: [HEADS-UP] systemd is now the default init system in rawhide I installed the latest systemd and added the appropriate symbolic link to graphical startup. My system hangs when almost complete at the plymouth throbber. In text mode it gets to the end of starting services and hangs. gdm never starts. In /var/log/messages, these seem to be the suspicious lines Jul 28 14:21:26 darrell init[1]: Job dev-mapper-vg_darrell\x1dlv_root.device/start timed out. Jul 28 14:21:26 darrell kernel: init[1]: Job dev-mapper-vg_darrell\x1dlv_root.device/start timed out. Jul 28 14:21:35 darrell init[1]: Job dev-disk-by\x1duuid-f060d5d3\x1ddef6\x1d4247\x1d9162\x1da810e55ca01c.device/s tart timed out. Jul 28 14:21:35 darrell kernel: init[1]: Job dev-disk-by\x1duuid-f060d5d3\x1ddef6\x1d4247\x1d9162\x1da810e55ca01c. device/start timed out. df shows the volume as /dev/mapper/vg_darrell-lv_root Any suggestions? darrell -- devel mailing list devel(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

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[HEADS-UP] systemd is now the default init system in rawhide
by Lennart Poettering 28 Jul '10

28 Jul '10

Heya, I have just uploaded a new systemd and a new upstart package which make systemd the default init system for Rawhide. The scheme I followed makes sure that in case systemd actually breaks systems there is an easy path back to upstart. And here's how it works: - "upstart" and "systemd" are now parallel installable. When you upgrade rawhide you will get both installed. (we'll drop upstart eventually, but during the testing phase i made sure to explicitly install both, so that there is a safe backup init system) - You can boot into either of them by setting the "init=" kernel cmdline option according to your wishes. If you pass "init=/bin/systemd" you will boot into systemd, if you pass "init=/sbin/upstart" you will boot into upstart (note the /sbin vs. /bin!) - Since there can only be one implementation providing the /sbin/init file name, I have split off -sysvinit packages from both packages which symlink this to either /bin/systemd (in the systemd-sysvinit pkg) or /sbin/upstart (in the upstart-sysvinit pkg). Something similar is done for /sbin/reboot and the other well-known SysV client utilities. That basically means you can choose which init system to use by default simply by installing either of these two packages. By default systemd-sysvinit will now be installed. As mentioned the "upstart" and "systemd" packages do not conflict -- but "upstart-sysvinit" and "systemd-sysvinit" do. The former two packages include all the actual code, and the latter then install them under the well-known names via symlinks. - Note that using the upstart client tools on a systemd system will of course make certain functionality unavailable. Vice versa it is similar: using the systemd client tools on an upstart boot will of course make certain functionality unavailable, too. However, I carefully made sure that both tool sets work well enough to be able to at least bring up and reboot the machine. So, to put this in shorter words: If systemd does not work for you and you need a temporary fix, pass "init=/bin/upstart" on the kernel command line. If systemd does not work for you and you need a non-temporary fix, install "upstart-sysvinit". I think this offers a good and soft transition for rawhide. I have tested all this quite extensibly on my machines, but of course, I am not sure how this will break on other people's machines. I sincerly hope I didn't break anything major with this transition. So please report bugs and don't rip off my head because I might have broken your boot... I didn't do it on purpose, promised! ;-) systemd.4-3 is the package version this switch of defaults has taken place in. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc.

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Re: Fedora 14 Milestone Reached: Feature Freeze-2010-07-27
by John Poelstra 28 Jul '10

28 Jul '10

Jonathan MERCIER said the following on 07/28/2010 06:37 PM Pacific Time: > For D Programming Feature: > ldc is in stable repo > tango is in review https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=608069 by > Chen Lei. > > For guideline i do a draft and ticket is open for review: > https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/7#comment:2 > > Extra Feature: > I work for add an environnemnt for D programmer: > - i package derelict for create D application using OpenGl > * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=618668 > * if someone want take this review feel free > - I try to patch DWT2 is SWT port to D, but developper will be away for > a few weeks, so i think this package will come for september (i hope > before) > - after DWT i will package poseidon an IDE using DWT > > For me D Programming Feature is done i waiting review for guideline and > tango. Some extra Feature will come later. > > best regards If the packages aren't reviewed and in rawhide by now this feature will need to wait until Fedora 15. John

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Crash on Subcommander 2.0.0 Beta 5
by Jochen Schmitt 28 Jul '10

28 Jul '10

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hallo, unfortunately, an user has reported an crash on subcommander 2.0.0 Beta 5 in the following bug report: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=619182 Because, I have no idea, what was going wrong, I would post this message to the list in the hope that anyone can give me a hint to fix this issue. Best Regards: Jochen Schmitt -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iJwEAQECAAYFAkxQjXkACgkQZLAIBz9lVu/s0QP/aergLcxv3WGMwd8r2COQu1vT v+Tkc5EAV64045XsqdlC0KAfzJZKaK1sVla3wphDlSsraI5Ey2CSxU0jyUX80aSB 6DBt9iLgt06ao6aVMCmfB4tNWbN5am07zGLDwesW7Cs03B2ILL9aCdW1kTpQYVZd +JMhTALd2zJzSvBQDUc= =/U9a -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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F14 Wallpapers Package -- Need a Review
by Martin Sourada 28 Jul '10

28 Jul '10

Hi all, As some of you might know, we (the Fedora Design Team) would like to have first wallpapers available in Alpha release. So I've prepared a package with them (pretty much reusing spec file from previous releases) which is now awaiting a review: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=618852 If anyone would be so kind to quickly review the package it would be more than welcome (we'd like to make it in *before* alpha freeze). I'm willing to do a swap review in return :) Thanks, Martin

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[Test-Announce] Testing Fedora? Please enable SELinux if you can
by Adam Williamson 28 Jul '10

28 Jul '10

I've been asked by FESCo to post this public service announcement :) We'd just like to remind those who test Fedora, in whatever way...running a stable release with updates-testing, running Rawhide, being a proven tester (especially)...that it's best if you test with SELinux enabled and enforcing. This is the default configuration of Fedora, so we need testers to be running with this configuration so we don't miss problems that show up when SELinux is running. For proven testers, I actually added a section about this to the instructions recently - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Proven_tester#Testing_process . We recognize there may be situations when SELinux causes problems and you need to make it permissive or turn it off temporarily, but please try and keep it turned on if you possibly can, and if you're in a situation where you need to disable it, please let the developers know by filing a bug, so they can fix it and you can turn it back on. Thanks a lot! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ test-announce mailing list test-announce(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test-announce

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