As of yesterday there simply is no way to get WiFi (iwlagn here) to
work. Restarting NetworkManager, avahi-daemon, udevd, dbus has no
effect. Restrarting nm-applet does nothing, no response to iwconfig ow iw.
The configuration for the wired network (set up statically for work)
doesn't work either, but connecting at home with DHCP does work.
GDM crashed on boot yesterday, luckily I've got XDM (and XFCE) installed
Dr. Horst H. von Brand User #22616 counter.li.org
Departamento de Informatica Fono: +56 32 2654431
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Monday, October 4, is the wiki freeze for the GA release notes. If
there is something you want to see in the release notes now is your last
The release notes draft content can be found at
This page links to a wiki page for each area in the release notes.
Simply add your content to one of these pages. It will be edited so
there is no need to be concerned about getting elegant prose. Just
getting the fact down will be a help.
Linux has traditionally shown the user packages to update and install,
which is great for administrators, but sucks hard for end users. How
many times have you been prompted with an update list that asks you to
decide whether to update something you have no idea about?
Mo illustrated a few days ago about how confusing the updater is
and I agree with her; and it's mostly my fault. Lists of unlocalized
generic packages are so 1990's, and compared with the Ubuntu Software
Center or the Android App-store we look like amateurs.
So, a solution. I've been working on app-install with some people
from other distros for the last few months, and last week it had it's
first public release. Schema version 2 is already being worked on, and
now optionally integrates with PackageKit and also provides some other
features like sorting applications by rating and application
screenshots. I've already generated distro metadata for the entire
fedora repository (this takes about four hours on my laptop) and
packages are available. It's really easy to generate metadata for
the other repos too, but I digress. Read the README file for all the
guts about how it works.
I've got two demo applications that use the app-install data. One is
installer and one is an
updater. These are work in progress, and show dramatically the lack of
my UI design skills.
The installer will be an additional tool (much like the
ubuntu-application-installer compliments synaptic) which is focused on
ordinary desktop users. If you know what an epoch is, it's probably
not for you. The old tool will remain, so panic not. This tool will
just install applications, that-is anything that ships a desktop file
with an icon. Anything else just isn't shown. Sorry! We will hopefully
show groups too, perhaps even the same entries as the "Applications"
The updater will be an improved version of the old package updater,
and anything that's not an application (e.g. PackageKit-libs-devel)
will be under a group (not shown in the screenshot) called "System
infrastructure". If you update an application that depends on a
package from the "System infrastructure" group then it gets pulled in
as a dep. Otherwise you only update the system stuff (e.g. systemd,
dbus, kernel) if you choose to select the "System infrastructure"
metagroup. Of course, you can descend and pick updates in that group
individually like before, if you know what you are doing, but I think
most people will just install the metagroup as one lump.
Also, bear in mind that neither app-install or the application data
packages are in distros just yet. This stuff isn't well tested. The
code may steal *all* your magazines from your bathroom.
Now, I mentioned my ineptitude at designing GUIs. This is where you
come in. I would love you add mockups of what you think an application
installer or application updater should look like to
http://live.gnome.org/action/edit/app-install. I'm going to ask Máirín
(mizmo on IRC) to help with the design work, so please upload images I
can share with her and the other design people. Thanks!
The Fedora s390x team is happy to announce the first installable
Fedora on IBM System Z (aka s390x) since Fedora 6!
It's been a long time in the making, but after several Fedora releases
since we started getting everything up into shape again we've finally
reached a point where we can provide an installable version of Fedora on
IBM System Z again.
As it's not a final release yet and we still need to have a few minor
workarounds in the installer image the location isn't yet in the typical
release directory for secondary archs. We expect this to be a thing of
the past once we get that last few fixes upstream and the composes
running in a consistent and permanent fashion (real soon now!!!).
The documentation has of course also been updated and a whole section
has been added in the README on how to install your own release (not
just running a hercules image as with our Fedora 11 preview version).
Hercules images and instructions on how to run that or how to install it
yourself can be downloaded from
Individual packages are available at
More info will be added in the next few days at
If you're interested, please join our mailing list at
or our IRC channel #fedora-s390x on freenode.net
Thanks & regards, Phil
 List of current team:
* Karsten Hopp Secondary Arch Maintainer (nickname Kick_ in
#fedora-s390x on IRC)
* Dan Horák
* Dennis Gilmore
* Brad Hinson
* Justin Payne (nickname kurgan in #fedora-s390x on IRC)
* Phil Knirsch
* David Cantrell (interest in anaconda support for s390)
Philipp Knirsch | Tel.: +49-711-96437-470
Supervisor Core Services | Fax.: +49-711-96437-111
Red Hat GmbH | Email: Phil Knirsch <pknirsch(a)redhat.com>
Hauptstaetterstr. 58 | Web: http://www.redhat.com/
D-70178 Stuttgart, Germany
Motd: You're only jealous cos the little penguins are talking to me.
Now plz send me a Z series and I'll take care about the updates :-P
Phil Knirsch <pknirsch(a)redhat.com> schrieb:
>The Fedora s390x team is happy to announce the first installable
>Fedora on IBM System Z (aka s390x) since Fedora 6!
>It's been a long time in the making, but after several Fedora releases
>since we started getting everything up into shape again we've finally
>reached a point where we can provide an installable version of Fedora on
>IBM System Z again.
>As it's not a final release yet and we still need to have a few minor
>workarounds in the installer image the location isn't yet in the typical
>release directory for secondary archs. We expect this to be a thing of
>the past once we get that last few fixes upstream and the composes
>running in a consistent and permanent fashion (real soon now!!!).
>The documentation has of course also been updated and a whole section
>has been added in the README on how to install your own release (not
>just running a hercules image as with our Fedora 11 preview version).
>Hercules images and instructions on how to run that or how to install it
>yourself can be downloaded from
>Individual packages are available at
>More info will be added in the next few days at
>If you're interested, please join our mailing list at
>or our IRC channel #fedora-s390x on freenode.net
>Thanks & regards, Phil
> List of current team:
>* Karsten Hopp Secondary Arch Maintainer (nickname Kick_ in
>#fedora-s390x on IRC)
>* Dan Horák
>* Dennis Gilmore
>* Brad Hinson
>* Justin Payne (nickname kurgan in #fedora-s390x on IRC)
>* Phil Knirsch
>* David Cantrell (interest in anaconda support for s390)
>Philipp Knirsch | Tel.: +49-711-96437-470
>Supervisor Core Services | Fax.: +49-711-96437-111
>Red Hat GmbH | Email: Phil Knirsch <pknirsch(a)redhat.com>
>Hauptstaetterstr. 58 | Web: http://www.redhat.com/
>D-70178 Stuttgart, Germany
>Motd: You're only jealous cos the little penguins are talking to me.
>devel mailing list
I have got next notify:
26.09.2010 16:09, buildsys(a)fedoraproject.org wrote:
> ImageMagick has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree:
> On x86_64:
> ImageMagick-18.104.22.168-14.fc15.x86_64 requires libgs.so.8()(64bit)
> On i386:
> ImageMagick-22.214.171.124-14.fc15.i686 requires libgs.so.8
> Please resolve this as soon as possible.
So, I have to rebuild ImageMagick again in rawhide. Additionally I'll
want update it to 6.6.4-6 version