FYI: F20 Feature: Migrate to Bluez5
by Bastien Nocera
Heya,
In Fedora 20, we'll be using BlueZ 5.x to manage Bluetooth devices.
Bluez5 uses a D-Bus API that's not compatible with Bluez4[1] and as
such, management applications and a number of libraries and daemons will
need to be ported.
For GNOME 3.10 (due September 2013), Gustavo Padovan and I are going to
be porting gnome-bluetooth, NetworkManager and PulseAudio to BlueZ5.
Packages for BlueZ5 will be available as soon as we figure out how to
integrate a few downstream features that were in the Fedora packages.
Bluez4 and Bluez5 are not parallel-installable, and incompatible, so
other applications relying on Bluez4 will need to be ported by their
respective maintainers.
Cheers
[1]: http://www.bluez.org/bluez-5-api-introduction-and-porting-guide/
and
http://lwn.net/Articles/531133/
10 years, 1 month
twinkle: Intent to retire
by Kevin Fenzi
Greetings.
I'm the current Fedora maintainer of the twinkle package.
Sadly, it's in poor shape:
- Segfaults on start in recent fedora versions (depending on config).
- Has not had an upstream release in 4+ years.
- Has not had any response from upstream maintainer in at least that
long.
- Uses Qt3 and a complex stack of c++ libraries.
- 8 open bugs:
https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/twinkle/bugs/all
Debian removed it last year, Arch moved it to a user repo instead of
the main repo last year.
So, I am going to retire this package in rawhide soon unless there's
folks with a very strong C++ background wishing to fix issues and
basically become the new upstream.
kevin
10 years, 1 month
F20 System Wide Change: Perl 5.18
by Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed System Wide Change: Perl 5.18 =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/perl5.18
Change owner(s): Petr Písař <ppisar(a)redhat.com>, Jitka Plesníková
<jplesnik(a)redhat.com>
A new perl 5.18 version brings a lot of changes done over a year of
development. See [1] for more details.
== Detailed description ==
New perl is released every year and updates containing mainly bug fixes follow
during the year. The 5.18.0 version is stable release this year and 5.18.1 and
subsequent revisions will follow during the year to fix issues introduced in
5.18.0.
Because of change in dlopen(3) from RTLD_GLOBAL to RTLD_LOCAL (bug #960048)
[2], we will try to link all native perl module DSOs to libperl.so explicitly.
This item needs discussion. Current status does not allow to use perl
interpreter via dlopen() from other programs (like slapd, snmpd), but proposed
change can bring other unforeseen difficulties (like double-linking).
[1] http://search.cpan.org/dist/perl-5.18.0/pod/perldelta.pod
[2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=960048
_______________________________________________
devel-announce mailing list
devel-announce(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce
10 years, 1 month
Orphaning Docky
by Lukas Zapletal
Hello all,
although package Docky was lot of work for me (licensing patching etc) I
am no longer using it and last two releases were very unstable. There
are couple of bugzillas reported mainly because of gconf migration.
"""
Docky is an advanced shortcut bar that sits at the edges of your screen.
It provides easy access to some of the files, folders and applications
on your computer, displays which applications are currently running,
holds windows in their minimized state and more.
Docky is written in mono.
http://wiki.go-docky.com
"""
Please ping me if you are interested to maintain the package.
--
Later,
Lukas "lzap" Zapletal
#katello #systemengine
10 years, 1 month
Fwd: Orphaning few packages
by Nicolas Chauvet
Hi
Because I need more concentration on fewer packages,
here is a list of packages I'm orphaning,
some might end deprecated at some point
One the same line are package linked together.
cinepaint (can be built without oyranos)
directfb tslib
libproxy (critical path) libmodman
oyranos icc_examin elektra
fmtools
makehuman animorph mhgui
libmpcdec
jrosetta matio
perl\* (see pkgdb)
Please add yourself as maintainer.
Nicolas (kwizart)
10 years, 2 months
Plan to drop php-pecl-apc from Fedora - Urgent review needed
by Remi Collet
Hi,
PHP opcode cache is a very important feature for sites with large traffic.
APC is mostly a dead project.
No stable release for php 5.4, lot of issues.
Upstream move most of dev resources to new "Zend OPcache" which will be
the official opcode cache, integrated in PHP 5.5.0
To be able to drop this package, we need
1/ php-pecl-zendopcache, the Zend OPcache for php 5.3 / 5.4
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=911111
Target version is EPEL-6 and Fedora <= 18 as Fedora >= 19 already have
php-opcache (subpackage of main php, same code)
2/ php-pecl-apcu, APCu, the drop-in replacement of APC for user data cache.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=928196
Target versions : Fedora >= 18 and EPEL-6
Please, review this.
Remi.
10 years, 2 months
More unhelpful update descriptions
by Michael Catanzaro
There still seems to be an issue with the update descriptions that we
present in PackageKit. A lot of people just write "update to version
x.y.z" which is not great, but a whole lot better than some of the ones
we've been seeing recently. For example, from two updates I got today:
* "Not tested locally yet, I need to spin back up a Fedora 18 VM."
* "Here is where you give an explanation of your update."
Now the first one is obviously a one-off mistake, but had the update
been checked over just once it would have been caught. The placeholder
one is a big recurring problem, though: it seems to show up at least
every week or so, which is not OK.
And once, about two months ago -- I really should have complained then
and not now -- an update was pushed where the text displayed in
PackageKit was something along the lines of "why do I have to describe
my update here when I've already filled out the RPM changelog." I wish
it was a joke, but something like that was actually pushed as the
description of a F18 update presented to every user who glances over the
updates....
We need written policy on update descriptions, since despite the last
discussion on this list [1], poor update descriptions continue to
blemish the otherwise-professional image of the distro. A starting point
suggestion: "Every update should have at least a one sentence
description." If the update is not worth writing one sentence about, it
is not worth pushing out.
Happy Friday,
Michael Catanzaro
[1]
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-March/179655.html
10 years, 2 months
F19 upgrade pulls in a lot of i686 packages
by Steve Grubb
Hi,
Did anyone notice all the i686 packages that get pulled in if you try to
upgrade from F18? My system has no i686 packages on it today. But
when I try to upgrade it starts getting i686 dependencies pulled in. It
starts like this:
---> Package mesa-libEGL.x86_64 0:9.2-0.7.20130528.fc18 will be updated
---> Package mesa-libEGL.x86_64 0:9.2-0.12.20130610.fc19 will be an update
---> Package mesa-libEGL-devel.i686 0:9.2-0.12.20130610.fc19 will be obsoleting
--> Processing Dependency: libEGL.so.1 for package: mesa-libEGL-devel-9.2-0.12.20130610.fc19.i686
---> Package mesa-libEGL-devel.x86_64 0:9.2-0.12.20130610.fc19 will be obsoleting
>From that it goes into:
---> Package mesa-libEGL.i686 0:9.2-0.12.20130610.fc19 will be installed
--> Processing Dependency: libxcb.so.1 for package: mesa-libEGL-9.2-0.12.20130610.fc19.i686
--> Processing Dependency: libxcb-xfixes.so.0 for package: mesa-libEGL-9.2-0.12.20130610.fc19.i686
--> Processing Dependency: libxcb-shape.so.0 for package: mesa-libEGL-9.2-0.12.20130610.fc19.i686
--> Processing Dependency: libxcb-render.so.0 for package: mesa-libEGL-9.2-0.12.20130610.fc19.i686
--> Processing Dependency: libxcb-dri2.so.0 for package: mesa-libEGL-9.2-0.12.20130610.fc19.i686
--> Processing Dependency: libwayland-server.so.0 for package: mesa-libEGL-9.2-0.12.20130610.fc19.i686
--> Processing Dependency: libwayland-client.so.0 for package: mesa-libEGL-9.2-0.12.20130610.fc19.i686
--> Processing Dependency: libudev.so.1(LIBUDEV_183) for package: mesa-libEGL-9.2-0.12.20130610.fc19.i686
--> Processing Dependency: libudev.so.1 for package: mesa-libEGL-9.2-0.12.20130610.fc19.i686
--> Processing Dependency: libselinux.so.1 for package: mesa-libEGL-9.2-0.12.20130610.fc19.i686
--> Processing Dependency: libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.0) for package: mesa-libEGL-9.2-0.12.20130610.fc19.i686
--> Processing Dependency: libpthread.so.0 for package: mesa-libEGL-9.2-0.12.20130610.fc19.i686
--> Processing Dependency: libglapi.so.0 for package: mesa-libEGL-9.2-0.12.20130610.fc19.i686
--> Processing Dependency: libgbm.so.1 for package: mesa-libEGL-9.2-0.12.20130610.fc19.i686
--> Processing Dependency: libdrm.so.2 for package: mesa-libEGL-9.2-0.12.20130610.fc19.i686
--> Processing Dependency: libdl.so.2(GLIBC_2.1) for package: mesa-libEGL-9.2-0.12.20130610.fc19.i686
--> Processing Dependency: libdl.so.2(GLIBC_2.0) for package: mesa-libEGL-9.2-0.12.20130610.fc19.i686
--> Processing Dependency: libdl.so.2 for package: mesa-libEGL-9.2-0.12.20130610.fc19.i686
--> Processing Dependency: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.4) for package: mesa-libEGL-9.2-0.12.20130610.fc19.i686
--> Processing Dependency: libX11.so.6 for package: mesa-libEGL-9.2-0.12.20130610.fc19.i686
--> Processing Dependency: libX11-xcb.so.1 for package: mesa-libEGL-9.2-0.12.20130610.fc19.i686
and then later dozens more get pulled in. Should looking for this be part of
future release criteria?
-Steve
10 years, 2 months
Minimal install diff from F16 to F19 (TC6)
by Adam Williamson
As it may be interesting and I have the data on hand, here's the package
diff between a minimal install of F16 and a minimal install of F19. F16
has 203 packages (I think it's really 202 but I somehow got an extra one
into my test), F19 TC6 has 238.
--- 16min.txt 2013-06-19 09:06:52.075305098 -0700
+++ 19tc6_min.txt 2013-06-20 00:09:20.725960756 -0700
@@ -1,48 +1,47 @@
acl
-attr
audit
audit-libs
authconfig
+avahi
+avahi-autoipd
+avahi-libs
basesystem
bash
bind-libs-lite
bind-license
biosdevname
-bzip2
bzip2-libs
ca-certificates
-checkpolicy
chkconfig
coreutils
-coreutils-libs
cpio
cracklib
cracklib-dicts
cronie
cronie-anacron
crontabs
-cryptsetup-luks-libs
+cryptsetup-libs
curl
cyrus-sasl
cyrus-sasl-lib
-dash
-db4
-db4-utils
dbus
+dbus-glib
dbus-libs
+dbus-python
device-mapper
device-mapper-event
device-mapper-event-libs
device-mapper-libs
+device-mapper-persistent-data
dhclient
dhcp-common
dhcp-libs
diffutils
-dmraid
-dmraid-events
+dnsmasq
dracut
e2fsprogs
e2fsprogs-libs
+ebtables
elfutils-libelf
expat
fedora-logos
@@ -53,8 +52,8 @@
findutils
fipscheck
fipscheck-lib
+firewalld
freetype
-gamin
gawk
gdbm
gettext
@@ -64,26 +63,35 @@
glibc-common
gmp
gnupg2
+gnutls
+gobject-introspection
gpgme
-gpg-pubkey
grep
+groff-base
grub2
+grub2-tools
grubby
gzip
+hardlink
hesiod
hostname
hwdata
info
initscripts
iproute
+iprutils
iptables
iputils
+json-c
kbd
kbd-misc
kernel
keyutils-libs
+kmod
+kmod-libs
kpartx
krb5-libs
+less
libacl
libassuan
libattr
@@ -93,28 +101,43 @@
libcom_err
libcroco
libcurl
+libdaemon
libdb
+libdb-utils
libdrm
+libedit
+libee
+libestr
libffi
libgcc
libgcrypt
libgomp
libgpg-error
+libgudev1
libidn
+liblognorm
+libmicrohttpd
libmount
+libnl3
+libpcap
libpciaccess
+libpipeline
+libpwquality
libselinux
+libselinux-python
libselinux-utils
libsemanage
libsepol
libss
libssh2
libstdc++
-libudev
+libsysfs
+libtasn1
libunistring
libuser
libutempter
libuuid
+libverto
libxml2
linux-atm-libs
linux-firmware
@@ -122,29 +145,35 @@
lua
lvm2
lvm2-libs
-m4
-mingetty
-module-init-tools
+make
+man-db
+mozjs17
ncurses
ncurses-base
ncurses-libs
-net-tools
-netxen-firmware
+nettle
+NetworkManager
+NetworkManager-glib
newt
newt-python
nspr
nss
-nss-myhostname
nss-softokn
nss-softokn-freebl
nss-sysinit
+nss-tools
nss-util
openldap
openssh
+openssh-clients
openssh-server
openssl
+openssl-libs
os-prober
+p11-kit
+p11-kit-trust
pam
+parted
passwd
pciutils-libs
pcre
@@ -154,17 +183,26 @@
plymouth-core-libs
plymouth-scripts
policycoreutils
+polkit
+polkit-pkla-compat
popt
+ppp
procmail
-procps
-psmisc
+procps-ng
pth
+pygobject3-base
pygpgme
+pyliblzma
python
+python-decorator
python-iniparse
python-libs
python-pycurl
+python-slip
+python-slip-dbus
python-urlgrabber
+pyxattr
+qrencode-libs
readline
rootfiles
rpm
@@ -176,28 +214,26 @@
selinux-policy
selinux-policy-targeted
sendmail
-setserial
setup
-sgpio
shadow-utils
shared-mime-info
slang
sqlite
sudo
-system-config-firewall-base
systemd
+systemd-libs
systemd-sysv
-systemd-units
sysvinit-tools
-tar
tcp_wrappers-libs
tzdata
-udev
ustr
util-linux
vim-minimal
which
+wpa_supplicant
+xz
xz-libs
yum
yum-metadata-parser
zlib
--
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora
http://www.happyassassin.net
10 years, 2 months
