whatever happened to yum + btrfs snapshotting?
by Neal Becker
Some time back there was discussion of being able to rollback yum updates via
btrfs snapshotting. As I recall, it turned out that the default btrfs install
was not setup correctly to make this feasible (I had briefly tested it on my
machine). I haven't heard anything since - this seems like a great idea.
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7 years
RFC: static builds for user emulators in Fedora QEMU RPMs
by Daniel P. Berrange
For those who aren't familiar, QEMU actually provides two completely
different sets of emulators
- system emulators - they emulate a full virtual machine and thus run
a full guest OS.
- user emulators - they emulate the Linux userspace ABI letting you
run non-native arch executables directly.
The user emulators are what I'm concerned with in this mail, so ignore
the system emulators.
Currently all the user emulators are provided in the "qemu-user" RPM
which also includes files in /usr/lib/binfmt.d to register each emulator
binary as a binary format handler for its respective architecture.
This is ok if you have a non-native arch binary that's statically linked
and you just want to run it from context of your main OS root filesystem.
Running dynamic linked binaries won't fly because if say running an arm
binary on x86_64 host, it'll look for /lib/libc.so and find the i386 one,
instead of the arm one. You can't set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to override this
as the env var will apply to both qemu-arm (an x86_64 binary) and the
binary it is trying to run (an arm binary).
More typical though is that you have a directory containing an fullish
install tree of a non-native architecture and you just want to chroot
into that. When doing such a chroot, the qemu-$ARCH emulator must be
present inside the chroot too. ie the x86_64 build of /usr/bin/qemu-arm
must be present inside at /my/chroot/for/fedora-arm/usr/bin/qemu-arm.
So again you have the potential problem of clashing libc.so in /usr/lib
It is a shame Fedora doesn't have full multi-arch support, instead of
merely multi-lib to avoid these clashing lib dirs across architecture
RPMs.
The recommended way to deal with this for the qemu user emulator binaries
to be statically linked, so when copied inside the non-native arch chroot,
they never need to resolve any native arch libraries. Fedora's qemu user
binaries are all dynamic linked right now.
Debian handles this by having several packages [1]
- qemu-user - the dynamic linked qemu user binaries
- qemu-binfmt - binfmt rules registering the dynamic linked binaries
- qemu-user-static - the static linked qemu user binaries *and* binfmt
rules to register them. The static binaries all
have -static suffix on their name
NB, this means qemu-binfmt and qemu-user-static are mutually exclusive
since they both provide the same binfmt files. You can however have both
qemu-user and qemu-user-static installed as their binary names won't
clash, and in this case the static ones will be registered as binfmts
This nice thing about this multiple package approach is that when you
copied the x86_64 build of the "qemu-arm-static" binary into your arm
chroot, you still then have the possibility of installing the arm build
of the "qemu-arm" binary inside that chroot without filename clash.
An alternative simpler approach would be to just have one package,
qemu-user, which contains the static binaries and never ship any
dynamic linked qemu user binaries. This is slightly more restrictive
though, as explained in the previous paragraph, so I'd like to avoid
doing that.
I'd like to make using non-native arch chroots simple with Fedora without
people needing to manually build their own static QEMU binaries, or download
static binaries provided by another distro[2]. So I'm suggesting to make a
change to Fedora qemu packages to essentially copy the way Debian has done
things. Specifically I will
- Pull the binfmt registration files out of qemu-user and into a
new qemu-binfmt package which depends on qemu-user.
- Add static builds of qemu user emulators to a new qemu-user-static
package, along with binfmt registration files
The static build of QEMU user emulators is moderately light on
dependancies, only requiring glib2-static, pcre-static, zlib-static
and glibc-static packages.
The change to introduce a qemu-binfmt package has small upgrade
implications since anyone with qemu-user installed today, will loose
the binary format rules unless they manually install qemu-binfmt. I
think the number of people affected is probably quite small, and some
of them may well wish to use qemu-user-static instead anyway.
Obviously this would only be done in rawhide, not any existing stable
releases of Fedora.
Nothing will change about the rest of QEMU packaging - ie all system
emulators will continue to use dynamic linking
Regards,
Daniel
[1] https://wiki.debian.org/QemuUserEmulation
[2] https://rwmj.wordpress.com/2013/12/22/how-to-run-aarch64-binaries-on-an-x...
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7 years, 2 months
No Boost update in F25
by Jonathan Wakely
Hi,
I messed up the change proposal for Boost 1.61 in F25, which means it
isn't on the schedule.
Given the huge amount of work involved in every Boost update, I'm not
going to be too upset if I don't have to do it!
How upset will other people be if F25 ships with Boost 1.60 (same as
in F24)? Then F26 would get an update, possibly skipping 1.61 and going
straight to 1.62 which should be out by then.
Boost 1.61 adds four new libraries: Boost.Compute, Boost.DLL,
Boost.Hana and Boost.Metaparse.
Full 1.61 release notes:
http://www.boost.org/users/history/version_1_61_0.html
7 years, 3 months
iphone mount in nautilus on Fedora 24
by Dusty Mabe
In older Fedora (at least Fedora 22) I could easily mount my ihphone
in Nautilus. I could click on it in the left hand side of the File
Manager and it would mount.
I am having trouble getting this same behavior in Fedora 24. Can
someone verify this works or does not work for them? You should be
able to verify this with Fedora 24 + Gnome + iphone + iphone cable.
Thanks,
Dusty
7 years, 5 months
Proposal: remove insecure WebKitGTK+ packages for F27
by Michael Catanzaro
Hi,
I propose we retire the webkitgtk and webkitgtk3 packages when
branching rawhide for F26 (expected to occur roughly February 2017),
and forbid unretiring them. All their dependencies would then be
removed from from Fedora according to the normal process shortly before
the release of F27 (excepted to occur May 2017). If nobody objects,
we'll carry out this plan shortly after the F26 branch point.
Question: Why retire these packages?
Answer: Affected applications that process untrusted input are
vulnerable to roughly 150 unfixed security vulnerabilities, the
overwhelming majority of which are remote code execution
vulnerabilities. The severity of this situation arguably outweighs the
benefit of keeping affected applications around.
Question: This sounds horrible, we should act soon. Why wait until F26?
Answer: Porting to the new WebKitGTK+ API is easy for many
applications, but for applications that use the DOM API it can be
expected to take some time, as this API has moved to the web process
and accessing it requires writing a web process extension. If we were
to use F25 as the deadline, there would not be sufficient time for
applications to be ported. Porting efforts should begin as soon as
possible.
Question: What if my application doesn't process untrusted input?
Answer: If you're sure your application never processes untrusted
input, it is a special flower. You should request a bundling exception
from FESCo if you do not intend to upgrade.
Question: You're horrible for proposing to remove my packages.
Answer: WebKit1 was deprecated in March 2013. Packages have had three
years to upgrade. It's clear at this point that this problem won't ever
be fixed without a hard deadline that is enforced. But this is a fair
point; it sucks a lot that compatibility is not offered here. Such is
the cost of free software....
Question: We usually allow compatibility libraries to exist
indefinitely. Why so strict with WebKit?
Answer: Our compatibility libraries do not usually have upwards of 150
unfixed remote code execution vulnerabilities. Backporting fixes is not
practical in this situation.
Question: But these packages are still included in RHEL. Isn't Red Hat
providing security updates?
Answer: No.
Question: Will you help port my packages to newer WebKit?
Answer: We'll answer questions, but unfortunately we can only provide
serious assistance to priority GNOME packages. evolution-data-server
threatens to take out gnome-shell if removed, for instance, which is
why we waited until the Evolution port is nearing completion to propose
this.
Question: What if my application depends on GTK+ 2?
Answer: You must first port to GTK+ 3, then port to WebKit2. You may
find it more practical to stop using WebKitGTK+.
Question: What if my application needs to work on Windows?
Answer: WebKit2 is not supported on Windows. You will need to either
commit to developing Windows support, or stop using WebKitGTK+.
Question: I hear QtWebKit is insecure too, why punish only GTK+ apps?
Answer: QtWebKit has not had security updates since ~2012 and so has
even more unfixed vulnerabilities. However, an unofficial effort is
underway to rebase QtWebKit on the upstream WebKit project. The plan is
to make regular QtWebKit releases based on the latest WebKitGTK+ stable
branch, meaning there should be regular security updates. This is still
a work in progress, but once completed, Fedora will be able to switch
upstreams and solve this issue without the need to port applications to
QtWebEngine. No such compatibility effort is planned for WebKitGTK+.
Question: Where can I view WebKitGTK+ security advisories?
Answer: http://webkitgtk.org/security.html
Question: Where can I learn more?
Answer: https://blogs.gnome.org/mcatanzaro/2016/02/01/on-webkit-security-updates/
Question: What would be removed if this were to occur today?
Answer: If you read this far, please seriously look over these lists.
Some big name applications are included.
$ repoquery --whatrequires --recursive webkitgtk
Yum-utils package has been deprecated, use dnf instead.
See 'man yum2dnf' for more information.
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$ repoquery --whatrequires --recursive webkitgtk3
Yum-utils package has been deprecated, use dnf instead.
See 'man yum2dnf' for more information.
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wxPython-0:3.0.2.0-10.fc24.x86_64
wxPython-devel-0:3.0.2.0-10.fc24.i686
wxPython-devel-0:3.0.2.0-10.fc24.x86_64
wxPython-docs-0:3.0.2.0-10.fc24.noarch
wxsqlite3-0:3.3.2-0.1gitb05867d.fc24.i686
wxsqlite3-0:3.3.2-0.1gitb05867d.fc24.x86_64
wxsqlite3-devel-0:3.3.2-0.1gitb05867d.fc24.i686
wxsqlite3-devel-0:3.3.2-0.1gitb05867d.fc24.x86_64
xemacs-tuareg-0:2.0.10-0.2.1c837e26.fc24.noarch
xiphos-gtk3-0:4.0.4-3.fc24.x86_64
xylib-0:1.4-8.fc24.i686
xylib-0:1.4-8.fc24.x86_64
xylib-devel-0:1.4-8.fc24.i686
xylib-devel-0:1.4-8.fc24.x86_64
yaws-0:2.0-2.fc24.x86_64
yaws-devel-0:2.0-2.fc24.i686
yaws-devel-0:2.0-2.fc24.x86_64
Note that work is already in progress for some of the above. Active
porting efforts are underway for Evolution (which will take care of the
mass of evolution-data-server dependencies like gnome-shell and gdm),
Geary, and Liferea. There are also stalled porting efforts for inactive
projects like Empathy, Bijiben, and Midori; these efforts have
significant progress and could easily be resurrected.
Question: What if we're not willing to remove packages?
Answer: Well, then we'll just have to watch the count of unfixed remote
code execution vulnerabilities increase forever, because there's no
chance all of the above packages will be ported; we could set the
deadline 10 years in the future and it still wouldn't happen. If we
decide we're not willing to remove packages, I would suggest renaming
the WebKit packages to webkitgtk-insecure and webkitgtk3-insecure to
clarify the situation.
Question: :(
Answer: \_(ツ)_/
Michael
7 years, 5 months
Retiring python-slimit in Rawhide
by Stephen Gallagher
Upstream is dead (website is gone), it hasn't seen a release in over three years
and nothing in Fedora relies on it anymore.
7 years, 5 months
Installing alsa-ucm by default in F25?
by Bastien Nocera
Hey,
alsa-ucm contains routing information to setup sound codecs
on some machines, usually SoC-based. It contains configuration
that's mostly relevant to ARM devices, but also a few Atom (CherryTrail and
Broadwell) related SoCs on Intel.
Could we install alsa-ucm by default? As it is necessary for PulseAudio to
be able to use those devices, should we get it dragged in as a PA
dependency?
Cheers
7 years, 6 months
Notice on WebKitGTK+ API/ABI compatibility
by Michael Catanzaro
Hi,
We have recently started updating all Fedoras to the latest stable
release of WebKitGTK+ in order to provide effective security support.
I'm pleased that so far we have had no bug reports related to these
updates.
Recently, FESCo wisely adopted a policy to ban stable release updates
that break API or ABI, and while I believe we currently comply, we
might be skirting the line a bit. We intend to offer a API and ABI
compatibility indefinitely, most likely until GTK+ 4 is released,
whenever that may be, but with two caveats.
First, the stable DOM bindings API/ABI will not change, but may cease
to function properly if something is removed from the DOM spec. In the
worst case, application crashes are possible, e.g. if an application is
not expecting a function to return NULL. To avoid friction with other
WebKit contributors, we cannot provide compatibility here. To my
knowledge, no real world application has ever been affected by such an
issue, and the odds of real world breakage here are much lower than
with a typical bugfix update, so I don't see the need to worry about
this -- it's just something to be aware of. If your open source
application is ever unlucky enough to be affected by such an issue, we
will help fix it.
WebKitGTK+ also offers a larger, unstable DOM API accessible if
WEBKIT_DOM_USE_UNSTABLE_API is defined. Here API/ABI compatibility is
restricted to micro 2.x.y version updates; the API/ABI *will* break in
a minor version update (2.x), and these updates will occur within the
lifetime of a particular stable Fedora release. The only practical way
to avoid API changes here is to not update WebKit and live with unfixed
remote code execution vulnerabilities. Backports are not practical.
Currently known users of this API are Epiphany and Yelp; since only two
applications are affected, I don't consider this a practical problem.
If your Fedora package needs to use this API, contact me privately so
that we can know to take responsibility for rebuilding your application
when needed and avoid broken updates. Third-party applications are
strongly encouraged to avoid using this API.
Michael
7 years, 6 months