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Apache Yetus
by Javi Roman 04 Nov '19

04 Nov '19

Hi! I'm working with Apache Zookeeper package [1], trying to update to the last Fedora versions. The last version of Zookeeper is using Apache Yetus [2] for Javadocs annotations (Yetus Audience Annotations). Yetus artifacts are totally missing in Fedora packages (no Yetus package at all). Is there any other package with this dependency, or alternative workaround? Otherwise, the solution is to include Yetus in Fedora? Many thanks! [1] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/zookeeper [2] https://yetus.apache.org/ -- Javi Roman Twitter: @javiromanrh GitHub: github.com/javiroman Linkedin: es.linkedin.com/in/javiroman Big Data Blog: dataintensive.info Apache Id: javiroman

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Official font
by Iñaki Ucar 04 Nov '19

04 Nov '19

Hi all, I incidentally discovered today that, since quite recently, there's a Red Hat font [1]. And this led me to think about the popularity of the Ubuntu font, you know, and how nice would be to have a nice catchy official Fedora font integrated into the distro... I'm just thinking aloud, because I don't know anything about font design. But maybe someone picks up the gauntlet... ;-) [1] https://github.com/RedHatOfficial/RedHatFont Cheers, Iñaki

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Review Request for OpenCASCADE
by Richard Shaw 02 Nov '19

02 Nov '19

I knew the day would come and it finally did. After OpenCASCADE changed to a true FOSS license the OCE (OpenCASCADE Community Edition) stopped releasing new versions and is now way out of date and no longer functions properly with FreeCAD. I can do a review in exchange if needed. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1768090 Thanks, Richard

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Re: Switching Maven and Ant to OpenJDK 11
by Miro Hrončok 02 Nov '19

02 Nov '19

On 25. 10. 19 19:30, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > Hello, > > Currently default Java runtime in Fedora is OpenJDK 8. This is not the > latest OpenJDK packaged, but still remains system-default version. > Because of that Apache Maven and Apache Ant in Fedora are built using > OpenJDK 8 and run on OpenJDK 8. > > I am planning to switch Maven 3.6 and Ant 1.10 modules to build with > and run on OpenJDK 11, which is the latest LTS release of OpenJDK. > This also means that future streams of javapackages-tools module will > default to use OpenJDK 11 for building packages. Please let me know if > you have any concerns. Hello, I am not very familiar with how Java works in this regard, but since this is the default stream etc., wouldn't it be wise to coordinate such change with a general OpenJDK 11 default Fedora system wide change? E.g. would the dependent OpenJDK 8 packages still build in stable releases if this change is done globally and for example if Ursa Major/Prime/... is activated? -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok

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Re: Blender for Fedora 31 does not support multimedia?
by Martin Kolman 02 Nov '19

02 Nov '19

On Fri, 2019-11-01 at 00:51 +0000, long27km wrote: > Why isn't there an option to install other repos codecs and impls ( i know the technical answer) ? I thought Fedora > was now supposed to be focused on being developer friendly. Dev's could just install another distro of the os that > allows licenses like debian/ubuntu... > except maybe I still would anyway since I'd have less trouble with those repos recently (re: x64 requires > flatpak/winepak). These growing pains are understandable, but this is getting to be a bigger issue if we cannot simply > install and use the tools we need. As I understand this (and actual Blender maintainers & other more knoledgable pepople plese correct me if I am completely wrong) this is due to an architectural limitation of Blender - you either build against ffmpeg at build time and have multimedia support or not build against ffmpeg and don't have multimedia support. Basically there is no runtime plugin support, like in other applications that can use Gstreamer and other mechanisms to query available codecs and use them if they are installed. IIRC Blender is not the only affected application, some even have ffmpeg as a hard dependency and can't be thus packaged for main Fedora repos at all. In any case, adding plugin support is on most if not all such cases a signifficant undertaking - unlikely something Fedora maintainers of such package can pull off, not to mention upstream potetially not being interested in accepting to such patches, that effectively increase theirmaintenance bruden by adding another codepath for codec handling. > > > From: Luya Tshimbalanga <luya(a)fedoraproject.org> > > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 4:58 PM > > To: devel(a)lists.fedoraproject.org <devel(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> > > Subject: Re: Blender for Fedora 31 does not support multimedia? > > > > > Blender in Fedora repository is built with ffpmeg support disabled by default for legal reasons. Negativo which is one > of co-maintainers provides nearly identical version with FFmpeg enabled accessible via fedora-multimedia branch. > > > https://negativo17.org/repos > Make sure to keep that repo disabled to avoid conflict with rpmfusion. > > > Luya > > > On 2019-10-31 11:09 a.m., Code Zombie wrote: > > > > Thanks Luya, > > > > > > > > I have all ffmpeg and gstreamer codecs installed. However, I think blender was installed by OpenShot before I > > actually installed ffmpeg and gstreamer codecs. > > > > > > > > > > So, it might be the reason why it does not play videos or music. But, reinstalling blender didn't help. Never had > > this issue before. > > > > > > > > > > - Mehdi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 11:26 AM Luya Tshimbalanga <luya(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On 2019-10-31 5:05 a.m., Code Zombie wrote: > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems that Blender 2.8 on Fedora 31 does not support sound and > > > > > > > video playback and export. > > > > > > > Does anyone have the same issue? Is that normal on Fedora 31? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Mehdi > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Mehda, > > > > > > > > > > > > Blender requires ffmpeg which cannot be legally included in Fedora > > > > > > repository to effectively use multimedia due to US patents law. One of > > > > > > best approach is either get ffmpeg without the offending codecs or > > > > > > enable an alternative like gstreamer which is beyond the scope of > > > > > > packaging process. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________devel mailing list -- devel(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > > > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > > > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > > > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

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[Test-Announce] 2019-11-04 @ ** 16:00 ** UTC - Fedora QA Meeting
by Adam Williamson 02 Nov '19

02 Nov '19

# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting # Date: 2019-11-04 # Time: ** 16:00 UTC ** (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto) # Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net Greetings testers! We didn't get a community update last week and we have some proposals to check in on, so let's meet again! Note that daylight savings time ends this weekend in most of North America, so the meeting time will be an hour *later* in UTC. If you change your clocks back an hour this weekend, the local time of the meeting on Monday will be unchanged. If you do *NOT* change your clocks, the meeting will be an hour later than before local time. If you're unsure, run 'date -u' and it'll tell you what the current UTC time is. If anyone has any other items for the agenda, please reply to this email and suggest them! Thanks. == Proposed Agenda Topics == 1. Previous meeting follow-up 2. Criteria proposals status 3. Test Day / community event status 4. Open floor -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ test-announce mailing list -- test-announce(a)lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-announce-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test-announce@lists.fedorapro…

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Stepping away from packaging (and request for owners)
by Jamie Nguyen 02 Nov '19

02 Nov '19

Hi all, It's been incredible to part of this project and community! :-) Once upon a time I was an (over?)enthusiastic packager and it's left me with ownership of 300+ packages. O_o In the last couple years I haven't been able to dedicate enough time to Fedora, and I've just about kept my most important packages ticking along. I keep thinking I'll eventually get around to everything, but I should probably stop kidding myself! So it's time to step down and let other people do a better job than I'm doing :-) (Of course, I still plan to use Fedora for my servers and laptops indefinitely!) Unfortunately, I have an insane number of NodeJS packages (sorry!), but here's me trying to step down in a helpful manner: 1. nginx, tor and torsocks have active co-maintainers who've been doing a great job. Massive thanks to Felix (heffer) and Marcel (maha) in particular! I've emailed them to see if they want ownership. 2. I have 5 packages that need owners. Volunteers welcome. [a] 3. I've removed my admin & commit access from 10 packages. These are owned by someone else, but some may be in need of co-maintainers. [b] 4. I've removed my admin & commit access from 30 NodeJS packages. Most are already owned by tomh so are in brilliant hands. [c] 5. I have 148 NodeJS packages that are listed as runtime dependencies by other packages (in rawhide). These need owners and love. [d] 6. I have 7 NodeJS packages that are listed as BuildRequires by other packages (in rawhide) but aren't runtime dependencies. These need owners. [e] 7. I have 75 NodeJS packages that are *not* listed as dependencies (in rawhide) by any other package. These may need owners. [f] 8. I've sent emails to co-maintainers for 51 packages asking if they want ownership. [g] 9. There are 39 other packages that I need to ask someone to remove my commit access from (where I'm not admin so can't remove myself). Hopefully that's scriptable by a Proven Packager? After a few weeks, if there are any packages I own where nobody has volunteered to take ownership, I'll orphan them. =============== [a]: Need owner =============== bashmount CutyCapt dateformat ledger utf8cpp ================================== [b]: Remove my admin/commit access ================================== adobe-source-code-pro-fonts libmpdclient libuv mpc ncmpc newsbeuter notmuch python-sleekxmpp rubygem-highline weechat =================================== [c]: Removed my admin/commit access =================================== js-jquery js-jquery1 js-sizzle nodejs nodejs-assertion-error nodejs-chai nodejs-chai-connect-middleware nodejs-chai-passport-strategy nodejs-closure-compiler nodejs-deep-eql nodejs-difflet nodejs-inherits nodejs-mapnik nodejs-mapnik-vector-tile nodejs-less nodejs-packaging nodejs-passport-oauth1 nodejs-passport-oauth2 nodejs-passport-strategy nodejs-proxyquire nodejs-set-immediate nodejs-simple-assert nodejs-speedometer nodejs-tap nodejs-tilelive-mapnik nodejs-tiletype nodejs-type-detect nodejs-uid2 nodejs-utils-merge nodejs-xmlbuilder =================================== [d]: Need owner, listed as Requires =================================== jasmine: 1 js-zlib: 1 marked: 1 mocha: 4 nodejs-abbrev: 1 nodejs-ansi: 3 nodejs-ansi-styles: 1 nodejs-asap: 2 nodejs-asn1: 1 nodejs-assert-plus: 1 nodejs-async: 11 nodejs-batch: 1 nodejs-better-assert: 3 nodejs-bindings: 8 nodejs-block-stream: 1 nodejs-boom: 2 nodejs-buffer-crc32: 1 nodejs-buffer-equal: 1 nodejs-bunker: 1 nodejs-burrito: 1 nodejs-bytes: 2 nodejs-callsite: 3 nodejs-chalk: 14 nodejs-character-parser: 1 nodejs-charm: 1 nodejs-cmd-shim: 1 nodejs-collections: 1 nodejs-combined-stream: 2 nodejs-commander: 7 nodejs-component-emitter: 7 nodejs-constantinople: 1 nodejs-cookie: 2 nodejs-cookiejar: 1 nodejs-cookie-signature: 3 nodejs-cryptiles: 1 nodejs-css: 1 nodejs-css-parse: 2 nodejs-css-stringify: 1 nodejs-ctype: 1 nodejs-cycle: 1 nodejs-defined: 2 nodejs-delayed-stream: 1 nodejs-diff: 3 nodejs-ejs: 1 nodejs-estraverse: 5 nodejs-eventemitter2: 1 nodejs-exit: 2 nodejs-eyes: 2 nodejs-faye-websocket: 1 nodejs-findup-sync: 3 nodejs-forever-agent: 1 nodejs-form-data: 1 nodejs-formidable: 1 nodejs-fresh: 1 nodejs-fstream: 4 nodejs-fstream-ignore: 2 nodejs-generic-pool: 4 nodejs-getobject: 1 nodejs-glob: 25 nodejs-growl: 2 nodejs-gzip-size: 1 nodejs-has-color: 1 nodejs-hawk: 1 nodejs-highlight-js: 1 nodejs-hoek: 3 nodejs-hooker: 3 nodejs-http-signature: 1 nodejs-inherits1: 1 nodejs-ini: 3 nodejs-jasmine-growl-reporter: 1 nodejs-jasmine-reporters: 1 nodejs-joose: 2 nodejs-joosex-simplerequest: 1 nodejs-jsonify: 1 nodejs-json-stringify-safe: 2 nodejs-js-yaml: 9 nodejs-jwt-simple: 2 nodejs-markdown: 1 nodejs-maxmin: 2 nodejs-methods: 4 nodejs-mime: 8 nodejs-mimeparse: 1 nodejs-minimatch: 14 nodejs-minimist: 8 nodejs-moment: 2 nodejs-ms: 3 nodejs-mute-stream: 1 nodejs-nan0: 2 nodejs-ncp: 1 nodejs-node-uuid: 2 nodejs-nopt: 8 nodejs-noptify: 1 nodejs-npmlog: 1 nodejs-oauth-sign: 1 nodejs-optimist: 7 nodejs-opts: 1 nodejs-osenv: 1 nodejs-package: 1 nodejs-paperboy: 1 nodejs-parseurl: 4 nodejs-pause: 1 nodejs-pkginfo: 4 nodejs-pretty-bytes: 1 nodejs-promise: 3 nodejs-proto-list: 1 nodejs-pubcontrol: 1 nodejs-q: 12 nodejs-qs: 5 nodejs-range-parser: 1 nodejs-raw-body: 1 nodejs-read: 2 nodejs-readdirp: 1 nodejs-read-package-json: 1 nodejs-reduce-component: 1 nodejs-repl: 1 nodejs-require-cs: 1 nodejs-requirejs: 2 nodejs-resolve: 7 nodejs-retry: 1 nodejs-revalidator: 1 nodejs-rimraf: 12 nodejs-runforcover: 1 nodejs-sax: 3 nodejs-semver: 9 nodejs-showdown: 2 nodejs-slide: 2 nodejs-snockets: 1 nodejs-source-map: 13 nodejs-stack-trace: 1 nodejs-stream-counter: 1 nodejs-strip-ansi: 5 nodejs-tar: 2 nodejs-through: 6 nodejs-tiny-lr-fork: 1 nodejs-transformers: 1 nodejs-traverse: 3 nodejs-tunnel-agent: 1 nodejs-uglify-to-browserify: 1 nodejs-uid-number: 1 nodejs-underscore-dot-string: 2 nodejs-url2: 1 nodejs-weak-map: 1 nodejs-websocket-driver: 1 nodejs-which: 6 nodejs-wordwrap: 3 nodejs-yamlish: 1 nodejs-zlibjs: 1 uglify-js1: 6 ======================================== [e]: Need owner, listed as BuildRequires ======================================== jasmine-node: 4 nodejs-grunt-contrib-clean: 1 nodejs-grunt-contrib-concat: 1 nodejs-grunt-contrib-uglify: 1 nodejs-ronn: 2 nodejs-supertest: 1 ycssmin: 1 ===================================================== [f]: Need owner, not listed as Requires/BuildRequires ===================================================== compat-libuv010 docco expresso js-jquery-migrate js-json nodejs-ain2 nodejs-archy nodejs-aws-sign nodejs-basic-auth-connect nodejs-child-process-close nodejs-chmodr nodejs-chownr nodejs-compressible nodejs-compression nodejs-config-chain nodejs-connect nodejs-connect-timeout nodejs-console-dot-log nodejs-cookie-jar nodejs-cookie-parser nodejs-couch-login nodejs-cssom nodejs-csurf nodejs-dryice nodejs-editor nodejs-errorhandler nodejs-expect-dot-js nodejs-express-session nodejs-fileset nodejs-fstream-npm nodejs-github-url-from-git nodejs-grip nodejs-grunt-compare-size nodejs-grunt-git-authors nodejs-grunt-lib-contrib nodejs-i nodejs-init-package-json nodejs-iso8601 nodejs-isodate nodejs-joosex-namespace-depended nodejs-jscoverage nodejs-jsonfile nodejs-keypress nodejs-lazystream nodejs-lockfile nodejs-ltx nodejs-method-override nodejs-morgan nodejs-muffin nodejs-multiparty nodejs-negotiator nodejs-node-int64 nodejs-normalize-package-data nodejs-npmconf nodejs-npm-registry-client nodejs-npm-user-validate nodejs-opener nodejs-promzard nodejs-q-io nodejs-read-installed nodejs-response-time nodejs-scmp nodejs-serve-index nodejs-serve-static nodejs-setimmediate nodejs-sigmund nodejs-static-favicon nodejs-stylus nodejs-temporary nodejs-testswarm nodejs-underscore-dot-logger nodejs-vhost nodejs-watchit nodejs-zlib-browserify web-assets ================================== [g]: Sent emails to co-maintainers ================================== lua-event (robert) node-gyp (tomh) nodejs-argparse (jsmith) nodejs-cli (jsmith) nodejs-colors (jsmith) nodejs-concat-stream (tomh) nodejs-constantinople (tomh) nodejs-debug (piotrp) nodejs-dep-graph (tomh) nodejs-detective (piotrp) nodejs-escodegen (piotrp) nodejs-esprima (jsmith) nodejs-esutils (piotrp) nodejs-express (tomh) nodejs-fs-extra (tomh) nodejs-globule (tomh) nodejs-graceful-fs (tomh) nodejs-grunt (piotrp) nodejs-grunt-cli (tomh) nodejs-grunt-contrib-internal (piotrp) nodejs-grunt-contrib-watch (piotrp) nodejs-grunt-init (piotrp) nodejs-i2c (tomh) nodejs-iconv-lite (tomh) nodejs-jade (jsmith) nodejs-libxmljs (tomh) nodejs-load-grunt-tasks (tomh) nodejs-lodash (tomh) nodejs-lru-cache (jsmith) nodejs-merge-descriptors (tomh) nodejs-mkdirp (jsmith) nodejs-monocle (tomh) nodejs-multimatch (tomh) nodejs-nan (tomh) nodejs-node-expat (tomh) nodejs-node-stringprep (tomh) nodejs-once (jsmith) nodejs-pg (tomh) nodejs-prompt (tomh) nodejs-request (tomh) nodejs-send (tomh) nodejs-should (tomh) nodejs-sntp (jsmith) nodejs-superagent (piotrp) nodejs-tape (tomh) nodejs-temp (piotrp) nodejs-underscore (dcallagh) nodejs-utile (piotrp) nodejs-vows (tomh) nodejs-winston (piotrp) nodejs-with (tomh) -- Jamie Nguyen

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request: Please revive beignet!
by Tetsuji Rai 02 Nov '19

02 Nov '19

Hi all, I've been using Fedora for a long time, but I was at lost to see there's no beignet supported in Fedora 30. But fortunately, archlinux had source patches for glibc-2.29, llvm,clang 8 and it worked on Fedora 30. However now on Fedora 31, archlinux's patch any longer works, and I am obliged to use binary packages of beignet borrowed from Fedora 29. But it's old and won't held in Fedora mirrors in the near future. I guess there are many users still using Ivybridge or Haswell and needing beignet. Will developers support beignet? Thanks in advance!! -Tetsuji

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Is noautobuild still a thing?
by Scott Talbert 02 Nov '19

02 Nov '19

Hi, While looking into the packages on my F31 that were not rebuilt for F31, I was looking at tk and why it was not rebuilt for F31 - it appears this package has a noautobuild file in dist-git. Should packages still be allowed to opt-out of mass rebuilds? I can't find any recent documentation about noautobuild or reminders to maintainers to manually rebuild their packages. Scott

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CPE Weekly: 2019-11-01
by Aoife Moloney 02 Nov '19

02 Nov '19

Hi everyone, Welcome to the CPE team weekly project update mail! Background: The Community Platform Engineering group is the Red Hat team combining IT and release engineering from Fedora and CentOS. Our goal is to keep core servers and services running and maintained, build releases, and other strategic tasks that need more dedicated time than volunteers can give. For better communication, we will be giving weekly reports to the CentOS and Fedora communities about the general tasks and work being done. For increased communication between our communities, we have created #redhat-cpe on Freenode! Please feel free to catch us there, a mail has landed on both the CentOS and Fedora devel lists with context here. Note: This document is currently built from individual reports rolled into a google document which we edit and copy into a final document. We are aware that this causes problems with some email readers, and are working on a method to make this less problematic. High Level Project Updates: Fedora: F31 was released on Tuesday 29th October! https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-fedora-31/ F31 documentation was also released. Fedora 31 websites had a harder release, but it is clearer to parties involved the amount of work which was done in the background every release. Fedora Infrastructure freeze ended and so changes to infrastructure can occur until the F32 Beta in about 3 months. Congratulations to everyone in the Community whom were involved with the release, onwards to F32 :) Rawhide Gating: A call to arms email has been sent asking for testers for multi build https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org… Single build workflow is working again and is aligned with multi-build workflows also https://bodhi.stg.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2019-3d6e95211e Update for the multi-build workflow needs to be created with autotime on, otherwise the update will not get pushed https://bodhi.stg.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2019-90b8bce568 Overview page of the remaining blockers and dependencies organized at: https://hackmd.io/Gbuu9JOPR--Y2yNCBEYI5A?view Ci.centos.org is still not using fedora-messaging Ci-resultsdb-listener with fedora-messaging and support for the new messages format is not deployed in production yet repoSpanner Developed another experimental patch that got us an ~83x speed up. Got 122% performance patch merged. Worked with smooge to get a repoSpanner cluster deployed on realistic cross-datacenter hardware. repoSpanner is still extremely slow when all three DCs are used. Est. 58 minutes to push Bodhi into it, even with the 83x speedup patch. The team is investigating a solution. Application Retirements Elections: Blocking issue was fixed https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/8253 Fedocal : jlanda started to work on communishift port https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/8274 Nuancier: Benson Muite is now working on OIDC authentication - Thank you Benson! Fed-msg: fedmsg-logger equivalent for fedora-messaging https://pagure.io/releng/pull-request/8940 CentOS: Cbs.centos.org migration Started planning for how to make community builds available with EL8 Deploying a new koji host that will be used for cbs.centos.org migration Migrated following services from puppet configuration management: https://feeds.centos.org (now under ansible, covering CentOS Stream/8) https://planet.centos.org (now under ansible) Continuing conversion of further puppet roles to ansible CentOS CI Added CentOS 8 and CentOS Stream in cico Updated python-cicoclient to support CentOS 8 and CentOS Stream Comments? Suggestions? Feedback? Let Us Know! Have a lovely weekend! Aoife -- Aoife Moloney Feature Driver Community Platform Engineering Team Red Hat EMEA Communications House Cork Road Waterford

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