From esr at thyrsus.com Fri Mar 31 13:32:14 2006 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5217513547674990713==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Eric S. Raymond To: devel at lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: 'Commercial Partners' Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:31:57 -0500 Message-ID: <20060331183157.GA25177@thyrsus.com> In-Reply-To: 20060331125303.270bef0f.seanlkml@sympatico.ca --===============5217513547674990713== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable sean : > But you're making some rather unsupportable assumptions about whether > the changes you desire will really lead to the outcome you hope for. Read up on the distinction between "necessary" and "sufficient" sometime. I'm advocating necessary changes, I have not represented that they will be *sufficient*. > You've refused to acknowledge that there are other alternatives > in the Linux landscape already doing the exact same thing you want > Fedora to do. = And that would be who, exactly? > And you've refused to articulate why every = > distribution must follow this same course of action. No, just the ones that want market share among non-technical users. Or, taking a larger view, Linux fans who actually want to do something to stem the tide of creeping DRM and locked-down video card and the like. To prevent that, we need to be the 800-pound gorilla, not a niche product appealing to techies only. > You're trying to take choice away from people. = OK, you've devolved into sputtering ga-ga incoherence now, Go take a tranquilizer. -- = Eric S. Raymond --===============5217513547674990713==-- From emmanuel.seyman at club-internet.fr Fri Mar 31 16:15:33 2006 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1931411681252903617==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Emmanuel Seyman To: devel at lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: 'Commercial Partners' Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 23:14:50 +0200 Message-ID: <20060331211450.GA24405@orient.maison.moi> In-Reply-To: 20060331183157.GA25177@thyrsus.com --===============1931411681252903617== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 01:31:57PM -0500, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > = > > You've refused to acknowledge that there are other alternatives > > in the Linux landscape already doing the exact same thing you want > > Fedora to do. = > = > And that would be who, exactly? Suse, Ubuntu and BLAG are the first three that come to mind. Emmanuel --===============1931411681252903617==--