Re: Langpacks and the packages needed to display/input a language

[Sundeep Anand]

On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 3:47 AM Jason L Tibbitts III <tibbs(a)math.uh.edu&gt;
wrote:

>  I noticed that my F30 installs are coming out far larger than my F29
>  installs (by 3GB or so) and did some digging into why.
>
>  With F30 we switched away from having groups named like "korean-support"
>  that you could install to get input methods and fonts needed to display
>  a language and instead we have metapackages named like "langpacks-ko".
>  These metapackages have (generally) weak dependencies on the fonts and
>  input methods as before. But other packages have reverse weak
>  dependencies on the langpacks, which causes far more to get pulled in
>  than was previously installed.  For example, each libreoffice langpack
>  has a "supplements" weak reverse dependency on the base "langpacks"
>  metapackage.
>
>  All of this seems fine, but my original goal was to be able to properly
>  display, and perhaps input, various languages.  But now I get
>  translations and help files and such as well.  Not just for libreoffice,
>  but for eclipse, glibc, all of KDE as well.  And I also get
>  autocorrection rules, spelling dictionaries, hyphenation rules, and
>  terreract OCR recognition data as well.  Some of those aren't small, and
>  the end result is that I need to bump up the size of / quite a bit.
>
>  Note that turning off install_weak_deps is not an option because for
>  most of the langpacks, _all_ of the langpack are weak.  (Some do have
>  hard font dependencies, and I'm not sure if this inconsistency is
>  intentional.)
>
>  So it seems we lost the simple "here are our suggested Korean fonts and
>  an input method" and instead the only thing you can say is "I want
>  everything possible to be available in Korean".  Is there any way to
>  improve the granularity here?  Perhaps by having "light" and "heavy"
>  langpacks, or splitting them by usage (translations versus simple
>  display of text)?
>
>  
Agree! We probably need more discussions (I'm quite interested to work on
this). This is one of the points for https://pagure.io/flock/issue/164


>  For now I guess I will simply extract the list of fonts and input
>  methods I want from the langpack specfile and stop installing the actual
>  langpack packages.
>
>   - J<
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