On Wed, Dec 01, 2010 at 03:59:02PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2010-12-01 at 15:53 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> > I don't really see any reason why *everyone* who's a packager
> > also have signed up to be a proven tester by now. I'd like to ask if
> > anyone has a perception that it's a hard process to get involved in, or
> > if they got the impression that they *shouldn't* get engaged in it, or
> > something like that. Maybe we can improve the presentation to make it
> > clear that this really ought to be a very wide-based process.
> With that in mind, perhaps we should have being added to the packager group
> automatically put you in the proventester group. If you turn out to be
> a problem we can then remove you from the proventester group until you've
> learned how you should be testing. (On the implementation side, we should
> have this ability in fas since we do something similar to put people who
> sign the cla into the cla_done group automatically).
I'm not sure I'd want to go quite that far unless the sign-up process
can wave the proven testers instructions in your face quite prominently.
They're short and easy to read and understand, but you can't infer them
from first principles: we do want to have people read the proven tester
instructions before becoming proven testers. That's actually the *only*
requirement to become a proven tester. :)
We don't have an automated process for showing people the rest of the wiki
pages with packager information either. If we added the information to this
after step #9, 'Request updates for Fedora release branches, if necessary,
using "fedpkg update" or another Bodhi interface as detailed in Bodhi
would that be sufficient? It would be the same amount of information as the
rest of the package process gets.
Note that the lack of a link to the proventester information on that page is
probably another reason that people (new people at least) don't know that
they should join proventester.