Adam W.,


regarding slack and the "clones" they have  irc gateways and  space for uploaded files (not  email)  which could be  useful for  irc (or a  4ase into irc avenue ---in lieu of  atrocities like Mibbit) I It would likely be more of a on-boarding thing. Personally I  am on  two IRC gateway'd  slack communities if  someone wants/ needs help setting one up if we ever go that route   (The "in the browser" aspect which is the slack default is likely to be less scary for 'new users' as well.


All that said slack is  in no means a perfect solution but is  a very make it what you will, get from it what you put in kinda thing.

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On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 2:40 PM, Máirín Duffy <duffy@fedoraproject.org> wrote:


On 10/14/2015 02:19 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
The only thing that concerns me is that at that point we'd have the new
thing, IRC, Ask, *and* the mailing lists, soon with Hyperkitty which in
some senses overlaps with all the others.

All of these are good things but would we have a coherent story about
why we had all of them, and would it just make it a nightmare to find
the right information / person?

So the intention with hubs is that it would have a web based chat interface that would use IRC. So if you prefer your old IRC client, keep using it; if you're a newbie and not familiar with IRC and want to communicate with Fedora folks, use Hubs chat (which is actually just the same IRC channels under the covers.)

Same thing with mailing lists / hyperkitty. If you prefer mailing lists, fine, stick with mutt or pine or $CLIENT_OF_CHOICE. If you're not into mailing lists you can read the messages and engage in convo directly in the hubs interface (we'll probably embed pieces of hyperkitty to do this)

We haven't thought too much about ask integration with hubs yet bc there was a GSoC project this summer to redesign the UI, but at some point we could integrate that too.

So the idea behind hubs is to enable folks who don't want to use the raw services but still want to participate in Fedora to do so.

Does that make more sense / seem more coherent?

~m