Am 06.10.2021 um 07:08 schrieb Michal Srb <msrb@redhat.com>:

Hi folks,

@Matthew Miller Are you still trying to save Fedora from packaging the ocean? :)

On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 9:10 PM Fabio Valentini <decathorpe@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 8:49 PM Matthew Miller <mattdm@fedoraproject.org> wrote:

On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 03:09:08PM +0200, Mario Torre wrote:
I'm not sure what's the best solution, but I guess the number one
reason to have packages within the Fedora distribution is for a matter
of trust, if this is the case I would argue that a curated list of
maven packages served via a Fedora managed repository would be a
better investment.

I'd love to see someone interested in this pursue this idea! I know we
talked about it as long ago as... Flock Prague... and probably before.

…..

Fedora could ship just Java applications that would bundle JARs (whatever version they need) from the Fedora Maven repository. I don't see this as a problem, as long as it would be possible to track what JARs are bundled in what application.

Fedora maintainers could then focus on maintaining applications, and not maintaining a ton of individual libraries that nobody really cares about that much.

I've roughly thought this through with our Java Web CMS project (we don't currently create Fedora rpm). I think with this idea the effort would be noticeably reduced. A number of intermediate steps could be omitted. 

My main question: how can we get this going? 

Normally we would first need a concise description and then (try to) discuss it on java-devel. 

Or is this a case of "do-ocracy“?

And who is able / willing to (co-)work?