On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 12:01 -0500, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
On 02/19/2014 01:16 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Sun, 2014-02-16 at 14:38 +0000, Richard Hughes wrote:
>> On 14 February 2014 21:43, Przemek Klosowski <przemek.klosowski(a)nist.gov>
wrote:
>>> If we are providing a next-generation UI for installing, to replace yum
>> That's not what we're doing.
> To expand a bit: insofar as Software - the tool we're discussing here,
> and the tool to which the "require applications to ship appdata"
> requirement applies - replaces anything, it replaces gnome-packagekit.
> It is not replacing yum.
>
> The old gnome-packagekit was a 'graphical package installer', just like
> yumex and apper. The new gnome-software is (with a bit of a handwave) an
> 'application installer'. That's a difference, but it's not relevant
to
> yum at all, and I doubt many people used gpk to install gcc. For those
> who really want a GUI package installer, the old gpk is still available
> in a not-installed-by-default package (though I assume Richard will
> eventually drop it), and yumex is always an option.
Thanks for the context. The reason I keep on droning about it is well
explained by the old military saying "What is worse than a bad general?
Two good generals.". I.e., it would be nice if there was one go-to
application for GUI software installation that everyone uses and
improves. As it is, we have four: yumex, gpk, apper and now Richard's,
and every one has some unique nice and/or niche features (*). It's just
a better user experience when there's one GUI installer with simple
default choice and advanced options,
One app "with simple default choice and advanced options" effectively
*is* two apps, uncomfortably shoehorned into one UI. You get all the
disadvantages of complexity with none of the benefits of simplicity.
This is why it's a model most apps have moved away from.
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