On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Andrew Lutomirski <luto@mit.edu> wrote:
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> On Dec 2, 2015 8:38 AM, "Reindl Harald" <h.reindl@thelounge.net> wrote:
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>> Am 02.12.2015 um 17:23 schrieb Andrew Lutomirski:
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>>> On Dec 2, 2015 8:15 AM, "Josh Boyer" <jwboyer@fedoraproject.org
>>> <mailto:jwboyer@fedoraproject.org>> wrote:
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>>>  > On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 10:30 PM, Andrew Lutomirski <luto@mit.edu
>>> <mailto:luto@mit.edu>> wrote:
>>>  > > Since the old proposal to have the bootloader automatically
>>> enumerate
>>>  > > boot options never went anywhere, can we do the next best thing?
>>>  > >
>>>  > > Specifically, these days grub2-mkconfig appears to produce output
>>>  > > that's functionally identical to what grubby generates.  Can we
>>> switch
>>>  > > new-kernel-pkg to just regenerate the grub2 config using
>>>  > > grub2-mkconfig instead of using grubby?
>>>  >
>>>  > I don't think so.  Despite the similarity in name, grubby does more
>>>  > than just deal with grub stuff.  Namely, it handles bootloaders that
>>>  > aren't grub.  We're close to having all arches on grub2, but I believe
>>>  > armv7hl won't ever get there and it's a primary arch.
>>>
>>> Could we switch for grub2 architectures and keep using grubby for other
>>> architectures?
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>> no - there is a world without grub2
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SyslinuxOption
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> Then let's make the same change across all bootloaders.  For grub2, use
> grub2-mkconfig.  For syslinux, use whatever Anaconda uses to generate the
> config in the first place.

And you would do that via a single command how?  By wrapping it in an
architecture/bootloader agnostic wrapper.  Which is what grubby is.

> Frankly, I'd like to see Fedora move away from grub2 even on x86.  But I'd
> also like to see grubby go away.

Maybe you could start by listing the problems you have with grubby
(and apparently grub2) instead of just saying get rid of it?

josh