On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On Thu, 2013-07-11 at 09:17 +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"
wrote:
> > I'm afraid I can't agree. I like the simplicity of the model you're
> > proposing, but from a practical point of view, there is still a commonly
> > held perception that there is a 'product' called Fedora which is
> > basically composed of what you get if you go to
get.fedoraproject.org,
> > download one of the things we push at you there, and install it.
> > Practically speaking, I believe we have to QA that 'thing called
Fedora'
> > as a whole. I don't think your model quite matches what people perceive
> > Fedora to be.
>
> What's your definition of what people perceive Fedora to be?
"What do we talk about when we talk about Fedora?" :)
Well, we just did a major release. Go look on
news.google.com for
"Fedora 19", or search for "Fedora 19 review", or just poke through
a
few popular tech sites and forums.
What do people do when they want to 'try Fedora 19'? They download the
primary image on the download page, which is the desktop live, and run
it. This is what they've _always_ done.
Hmm I wouldn't be surprised if we had more Fedora users running on
cloud instances now than we do on the desktop but there's no way to
tell really.
Do you ever see anyone doing a minimal install and commenting on the
package loadout? Commenting on the actual interesting and difficult
technical changes that are what a distribution really does? No, they run
the live image for a couple of days, decide whether they think the
desktop background looks nice, say whether they liked the installer, and
bash GNOME 3 for a while.
Or they run it in the cloud where it mostly just works and they don't
give a hoot about a 10 year support cycle because their spun up image
in some cases barely last 10 days and get on with their job and don't
say a thing :-P
If we're really, really lucky they'll mention there are some
other spins
available. In passing. Without ever downloading one. And that's about
it.
Agree!