On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 3:26 PM kevin <kevin(a)scrye.com> wrote:
On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 12:57:34PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 12:54 PM Matthew Miller
> <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 11:51:13AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
> > > That makes it extra steps to see changelogs on a not-installed package.
> > > I do sometimes do "rpm -q --changelog -p foo.rpm" or "dnf
changelog foo"
> > > (for example, to see what is changed since my installed version).
> > > Converting to an installed file means I would have to extract the RPM
> > > (possibly after manually downloading) and find it under a different
> > > directory for every RPM - much less convenient.
> >
> > A dnf plugin could be made which shows metadata like this from
> >
src.fedoraproject.org or bodhi or some other source.
> >
>
> That's not helpful beyond Fedora, though. When it's forked into RHEL
> or CentOS, that changelog history from Fedora is preserved today. RHEL
> forks Fedora at the git level, so generated changelogs from Git will
> still work, and since CentOS gets SRPM imports into its Dist-Git,
> they'll be flattened into %changelog sections as appropriate. But if
> we rely on a web service to get changelogs, we screw over that
> particular transition path.
Sure, but how often is that changelog:
"Updated to 10.0.1"
or
"Fixed typo"
I pretty much stopped reading changelogs a while back.
Looking at the upstream NEWS or announcement is better for releases, and
just looking at the git commits is better for isolating some change in
packaging.
I do the opposite. I almost never read upstream news or changelog
files. They just don't matter in most cases when I'm trying to figure
out problems. Those timelines in the packaging changelogs are a good
record of how the package itself has evolved, and sure, most of the
time it's just updating to a new version, but those checkpoints are
useful too.
And in the Fedora -> RHEL -> CentOS case, we do not have those
relationships with Git commits, so the changelog entries are the only
way to figure out packaging deltas and such.
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