On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 6:24 AM Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com> wrote:
Hi All,

I'm working on improving the Fedora boot experience, with the
end goal being a user pressing the on button and then going
to the graphical login manager without him seeing any
text messages / menus filled with technical jargon.

IIRC we used to hide the grub-menu by default on single
OS installs, but we seemed to have stopped doing that,
for new Fedora 29 installs I would like us to start
hiding the menu by default on single OS installs again,


The goal if this email is to:
1) Give people an advance warning about the plan to change
this so we can discuss this early on

2) See if anyone knows why we stopped doing this, I think
we may simply have stopped doing this to simplify to bootconfig
code in anaconda and because we did not always identify the
single OS case correctly, but I wonder if there were other

I think part of the reason is that non-technical people might not know how to recover if a kernel update had a regression leaving their system unbootable. At least with the boot config screen there, it offers them something to try.

I would be concerned if we drop this without instituting an alternative way to (perhaps automatically) revert to an older kernel if boot failed to reach some sensible systemd target.