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As for Pagure itself, I think this is where we fundamentally
disagree.
I think it behooves us to own and provide an experience tailored for
our community from beginning to end. That's why we have Koji, Bodhi,
Dist-Git, and many other tools in that part of the lifecycle. The
packager experience is literally the lifeblood of the project, and
our
contributors are the core of what makes Fedora successful. Pagure
gives us an opportunity to do right by them that I *really* don't
think we can do with any alternatives.
That does *not* mean that CPE team should be the sole owner of the
Pagure *codebase*. On that point, I agree. And that's why I've spent
a
lot of time and energy since late 2018 working on building up that
community. It's finally starting to bear fruit too: there's at least
one entity interested in building a product around it and
contributing
to help support that product, there's the FSF preparing to launch a
new forge using Pagure, there's the Trisquel GNU+Linux distribution
working on a Pagure deployment to host their code and packaging, and
there's a few other things I've got up my sleeve to help broaden the
community with not just users, but also contributors.
It's great to hear this. Thanks a lot Neal for trying to find
consumers. I'm not sure if this information was available to Fedora
infrastructure during the decision. It means that we may have another
contributors.
I think Fedora Infra should talk to these potential contributors to
find out how much they are willing to contribute to Pagure and re-think
the decision based on that. It's big difference if this is just a
Fedora tool or if it is used and developed by others too.
Jirka
Are there deficiencies in Pagure? Of course there are. I'm not
claiming that Pagure is perfect. But I think that keeping on with
Pagure and giving that community an opportunity to close the gap on
needed features for Fedora/CentOS/Red Hat is the right way to go.
Right now, I don't *know* what the important gaps are. I can make
some
guesses, but it'd be a lot better if we had a list of missing
features
and their relative important and why. That would help focus
development to meet those needs.
The Fedora community itself has indicated that they want to keep on
with Pagure, and many Fedorans are Pythonistas, which means that
everyone can easily contribute to help make it better for everyone.
Anyway, I hope this helps clarify my position on the matter!
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