These are generic servers. I can provide a link to the vendor's website when I get home. It is not Dell, Lenovo or similar, those are currently selling mostly x86_64. Additionally, many users don't want to buy a new computer just because a software project made the decision to randomly drop support for their architecture. I am certainly one of those. The hardware is fine, perfect working condition. I don't understand why we should simply turn these to e-waste because somebody flipped the proverbial switch.

Also, what issues have you run into with x86 other than issues with the memory limit? Most of my systems do not have more than 4 GiB of memory to begin with. My laptop is, perhaps, the only exception among my personal hardware, and that's an X200T from 2009.

On September 17, 2019 9:06:49 PM UTC, Stephen John Smoogen <smooge@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 at 16:53, John M. Harris, Jr. <johnmh@splentity.com> wrote:

 I do mean 32 bit. Contrary to what is published in the Magazine article, x86 systems are still produced to this day, and are not unpopular. I have 14 of such systems, 4 produced within the last year.


Popularity is a loaded word which can mean whatever one wants
depending on the situation. I say this because it has gotten bandied
about on both sides of this debate for the last year. I really tried
to find an x86_32 box from Dell, Lenovo or other vendors today and
couldn't find any. That doesn't mean they don't exist.. it just means
that whatever google magic I have failed me. It also doesn't mean that
x86_32 isn't being used in some specific field.. but again most
everything I ran into was all the problems that x86_32 boxes have with
memory limitations etc.. You might have other search results or better
words, but unless we both use them, we are in two different worlds.

When you are saying you have systems can you be specific on what they
are and where you got them. Also what you are using them for. One of
the problems with trying to 'solve' the x86_32 problem is that we have
been trying to solve ALL of it, and it might be better aimed at
pointing at a specific subset and getting the people there to join
together. It probably won't be in Fedora since the goals of the
distribution may not match.

On September 17, 2019 8:50:23 PM UTC, Samuel Sieb <samuel@sieb.net> wrote:

 On 9/17/19 1:48 PM, John M. Harris, Jr. wrote:

 I have 14 systems that failed to update to F31 (predictably so). These
 are x86 systems, which previously had no major issues. I have reverted
 to a previous snapshot using a recovery disk.


 Predictably?  Do you have more details than that?  Or by x86 are you
 meaning 32-bit?
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