Re: Meeting Minutes for Friday's FESCo Meeting (2016-08-19)

[Adam Miller]

On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 4:43 PM, Adam Miller
<maxamillion(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>  Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the
>  FESCo meeting Friday at 16:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on
>  irc.freenode.net.
>
>  To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
>    http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto
>
>  or run:
>    date -d '2016-08-12 16:00 UTC'
>
>
>  Links to all tickets below can be found at:
>  https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9
>
>  = Followups =
>
>  #topic #1605 finish retirement of sysvinit-only packages
>  .fesco 1605
>  https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1605
>
>  #topic #1606 F25 approved Changes not in MODIFIED status
>  .fesco 1606
>  https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1606
>
>  #topic #1609 Fedora 26 schedule proposal
>  .fesco 1609
>  https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1609
>
>  #topic #1611 Continued lack of support for RPM weak deps in distro tooling
>  .fesco 1611
>  https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1611
>
>  = New business =
>
>  #topic #1613 Deletion of EOL AMIs
>  .fesco 1613
>  https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1613
>
>  #topic #1614 FHS exception for /snap
>  .fesco 1614
>  https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1614
>
>
>  = Open Floor =
>
>  For more complete details, please visit each individual
>  ticket.  The report of the agenda items can be found at
>  https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9
>
>  If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can
>  reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at
>  https://fedorahosted.org/fesco, e-mail me directly, or bring it
>  up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note
>  that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting. 
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#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2016-08-19)
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Meeting started by maxamillion at 16:00:29 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-08-19/fesco.2016-08...
.



Meeting summary
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* init process  (maxamillion, 16:00:40)

* Follow Ups  (maxamillion, 16:03:01)

* #1605 finish retirement of sysvinit-only packages  (maxamillion,
  16:03:14)
  * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1605   (maxamillion,
    16:03:35)

* #1606 F25 approved Changes not in MODIFIED status  (maxamillion,
  16:07:23)
  * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1606   (maxamillion,
    16:07:23)
  * AGREED: defer KillUserProcess to Fedora 26 (+1: 8, -1: 0, +0: 0)
    (maxamillion, 16:20:50)
  * AGREED: maxamillion to take the review of cargo to move the rust
    change through (+1: 8, -1: 0, +0: 0)  (maxamillion, 16:23:51)
  * AGREED: defer Koji Generates Installation Media change until Fedora
    26 (+1: 8, -1: 0, +0: 0)  (maxamillion, 16:28:41)
  * AGREED: Approve Release Engineering Automation Workflow Engine
    Change (+1: 8, -1: 0, +0: 0)  (maxamillion, 16:32:11)

* #1609 Fedora 26 schedule proposal  (maxamillion, 16:32:22)
  * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1609   (maxamillion,
    16:32:22)
  * AGREED: more in ticket discussion needed for schedule, will revisit
    later  (maxamillion, 16:45:36)

* #1611 Continued lack of support for RPM weak deps in distro tooling
  (maxamillion, 16:45:44)
  * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1611   (maxamillion,
    16:45:49)
  * AGREED: releng will try and move all compose tools to support weak
    deps, but in the mean time issues with composes and weak deps will
    need to be handled on a case by case basis. (+1: 9, -1: 0, +0: 0)
    (maxamillion, 16:56:28)

* New Business  (maxamillion, 16:57:28)

* #1613 Deletion of EOL AMIs  (maxamillion, 16:57:34)
  * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1613   (maxamillion,
    16:57:34)
  * AGREED: defer decision on Deletion of EOL AMIs until the AWS billing
    issue is sorted (+1: 7, -1: 0, +0: 1)  (maxamillion, 17:15:17)

* #1614 FHS exception for /snap  (maxamillion, 17:15:25)
  * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1614   (maxamillion,
    17:15:26)
  * LINK:
    https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/system:snappy/golang-github-snapc...
    (Pharaoh_Atem, 17:23:24)
  * ACTION: maxamillion to reach out to openSUSE, arch, and debian
    contacts on /snap topic to aid in cross-distro agreement on approach
    (maxamillion, 17:31:15)
  * AGREED: defer FHS exception for /snap until next week's meeting (+1:
    8, -1: 0, +0: 0)  (maxamillion, 17:36:08)

* #1615 Consider Wayland by default for F25  (maxamillion, 17:38:11)
  * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1615   (maxamillion,
    17:38:19)
  * AGREED: FESCo agrees to go ahead with Wayland by default provided
    that release notes and common bugs are clear about how to switch
    back to X11 if needed. (+1: 7, -1: 0, +0: 0)  (maxamillion,
    17:46:26)

* #1612 Provenpackager request jforbes  (maxamillion, 17:47:54)
  * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1612   (maxamillion,
    17:48:05)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Provenpackager_policy   (nirik,
    17:53:19)
  * AGREED: Approve jforbes Provenpackager request (+1: 7, -1: 1, +0: 0)
    (maxamillion, 18:00:17)

* Next week's chair  (maxamillion, 18:01:26)
  * dgilmore to chair next weeks meeting  (maxamillion, 18:02:47)

* Open Floor  (maxamillion, 18:03:00)

Meeting ended at 18:06:09 UTC.




Action Items
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* maxamillion to reach out to openSUSE, arch, and debian contacts on
  /snap topic to aid in cross-distro agreement on approach




Action Items, by person
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* maxamillion
  * maxamillion to reach out to openSUSE, arch, and debian contacts on
    /snap topic to aid in cross-distro agreement on approach
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)