----- Original Message -----
My statements was directly targeted at the often repeated attitude on
seems to be that Red Hat should shut up and pay for whatever the given poster
think should be payed
for without having any expectations or requirements of the Fedora community
The relationship between Red Hat and Fedora is very different from that of
for instance Debian and Ubuntu,
with Red Hat being a lot more directly involved in both contributing to
Fedora and paying for the
general upkeep of Fedora. Personally I always felt that this symbiotic
relationship was a big part of
what made Fedora interesting.
+1 and I still think it works pretty well - Red Hat has a nice space to
do work on the future RHELs in open way (not like other so called open
companies), community can contribute where there's interest.
Btw. I'm not saying there are no issues, or sometimes more misunderstandings
that always could be resolved.
So in regards to the spins, which my original response didn't
really try to
address, I think they should all become remixes
and I think we should try to build an infrastructure where doing a remix is
as easy as possible.
For example, in theory I think the Fedora project could provide some kind of
web hosting space for the remixes, to reduce the burden/threshold
for remix maintainers
And we call these spins now.
, but I do also see that there are legal and
administrative reasons for why that could be a bad idea, but I am sure that
some discussion and investigation there are solutions that can be found to
these practical challenges.
That's one idea behind remixes - make it as easy as possible to remix Fedora
outside of Fedora space to avoid legal issues.
----- Original Message -----
> From: "piruthiviraj natarajan" <piruthiviraj(a)gmail.com>
> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 12:29:43 PM
> Subject: Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Christian Schaller < cschalle(a)redhat.com >
> What I mean to say is that Red Hat has a business motive to support the
> Fedora community,
> if supporting Fedora was a pure act of charity then I think organizations
> like the Red Cross
> or Unicef would have a much better chance of getting the money.
> So if the Fedora community wants to not care about why Red Hat invests in
> Fedora they are of course free to do so,
> but it becomes quite disingenuous to later be surprised if Red Hat loses
> interest in Fedora.
> well this kind of strategy towards the community is not very inspiring for
> the new contributors, is it?
> I think there is interest in the fedora community for Gnome as well as
> DE which RHEL doesn't ship.
> But since this thread has been moving in a direction where the Fedora spins
> are under threat to exist in the repos doesn't bode well for the packages
> that is not of interest to red hat.
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