Hi Mattia,

We seem to be having the same conversation but with opposite interpretations :) I'll try to clarify my comments below.

On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 9:25 AM Mattia Verga via devel <devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
Il 05/09/22 08:59, Brian (bex) Exelbierd ha scritto:

On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 9:24 PM Adam Williamson <adamwill@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
On Thu, 2022-08-18 at 17:28 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote:
> Hello everyone!
> I just completed the first run of FESCo's newly approved Inactive
> Packager Policy[1]. Packagers that have been identified as inactive
> have a ticket in the find-inactive-packagers repo[2]. One week after
> the F37 final release, packagers who remain inactive will be removed
> from the packager group. (Note that pagure.io is one of the systems
> checked for activity, so commenting on your ticket that you're still
> around will prevent you from showing up in the second round.)

So, I have a probably-controversial idea for a follow-up on this.

I'll add one more idea/loophole to consider closing.  I am a member of the packager group but no longer maintain any packages.  I am active enough in other ways to not be noticed by this policy.  I don't think that is right.

I'm sorry for that. The script currently searches for user activity in src.fp.o, pagure.io, Bodhi, Bugzilla and Fedora mailing lists. Can you tell me where you're active, so, maybe, I can add that place in the search pattern?

I am in the packager group.  I have no packages.  I have activity in BZ, Fedora mailing lists, etc.  However, I believe the script should flag me for removal from the packager group because I do not have commit rights to any package and am not a proven packager.



I have submitted a ticket to voluntarily give up my packager rights under this policy.  However, we should probably verify that a packager actually has at least one package or is a proven packager as a part of this policy.  I realize that it is very hard to know how long someone has not had any packages, so this could result in a request to validate to a person who is temporarily without a package during the period when the script is run, however I think this is a reasonable edge case to resolve manually.



I don't agree with that. If a user haven't got any commit right to any package, they don't need to be in the packager group, that's exactly the scope of this policy. Maybe they left years ago, their commit rights were removed, but they never have been removed from packagers.


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