On 03/13/2013 01:32 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote:

On 03/12/2013 07:24 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:

I am saying this because I agree. To me the proposal (not the original
but some point in the the 500 ms boot time "ideal" ) seemed very much
a welded shut view. And as someone who has to worked on welded shut
computers for asthetic reasons.. it brings out the fighting urge in
me.

Did you guys actually read the blog post? Is aesthetics cited in any of
the reasons for hiding the menu? No, it's not. These were the reasons I
cited in favor of the proposal to hide the menu:

- We used to suppress the boot menu by default in earlier releases and
its suppression didn’t cause major problems.

Well, at least for me, re-activating has always been a part of the routine after-install cleanup job, ever since I am using RH-based distros.

- Not listening for keypresses doesn’t probe USB, meaning not waiting
for keypresses will make boot even faster since we won’t have to
load/probe USB.

Is this of any importance? Non-USB-equipped systems are rare to find these days, so loading/probing USB will be inevitable in the majority of cases.

I'd call this to be an urban legend. A boot menu is self-explanatory, even to new-comers.

It may baffle them when they see it for the first time, but will very soon get used to it.

Please be fair.

Please do so - I feel you are trying to solve a non-issue.

Ralf

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